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06-20-2012, 10:20 AM
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Dojo: Roberto Lopez
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Help of tecnics
Dear Partners of Aikido:
In the pursuit of learning many things I learned basic and complex techniques, but I found something that I do not now how to solve it.
Someone of you can send me a link to a video of these techniques?:
Nanakyo
7. principle = Yonkyo applied to back of wrist
Hakyo
8. principle = kote-ori-kakae-kimi, kuji-dori = Nikyo in which his elbow is in your armpit and his hand is pulled forward; Pinning their hand with your foot
Kukyo
9. principle = Inverted nanakyo
Jukyo
10.principle =
I realy need to see a video for understanding this.
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06-20-2012, 12:33 PM
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Re: Help of tecnics
Hi Andres: I would go to youtube if I was you.
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06-20-2012, 12:40 PM
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Dojo: Roberto Lopez
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Mary Eastland wrote:
Hi Andres: I would go to youtube if I was you.
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Thanks, but I found nothing. I hope someone can give me a link to a video that is really what I'm looking for. Thanks for help
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06-20-2012, 05:04 PM
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Dojo: Boulder Aikikai
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Re: Help of tecnics
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06-20-2012, 05:47 PM
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Dojo: Sakumeikan N.E. Aikkai .Newcastle upon Tyne.
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Dan Rubin wrote:
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Dan,
No 1-a poor variant of Sankyo.2,A convoluted Kokyu Ho 3.A n aihamni udegarame nage.Cheers, Joe.
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06-20-2012, 07:26 PM
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Dojo: Boulder Aikikai
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Joe Curran wrote:
Dan,
No 1-a poor variant of Sankyo.2,A convoluted Kokyu Ho 3.A n aihamni udegarame nage.Cheers, Joe.
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Joe
I've never heard of aikido techniques numbered past gokyo. I just found these on the internet (I googled "aikido nanakyo," etc.) and thought they might be what the OP is looking for. I think the OP got his list off aikidofaq.
I offer no opinion as to the validity or quality of the demonstrated techniques.
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06-21-2012, 09:45 AM
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Dojo: Aikido Arts of Shin Budo Kai/ Bedford Hills, New York
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Re: Help of tecnics
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David Soroko wrote:
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David:
Who uses a knife like that? Leaning forward, keeping the blade dead while out in front, spare hand lifeless..... I know that the purpose is for an instructional video, but geez, this guy should be attacking in a cleaner manner than that (I would hope). That kind of stuff looks good for the Zombie TV series, but outside of that.......
Regards,
Marc Abrams
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06-21-2012, 10:07 AM
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Dojo: Roberto Lopez
Location: Santiago
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Dan Rubin wrote:
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First I want to thank you for the concern to find the video.
I think it is not what I'm looking, I have my doubts as to whether these techniques you see in the videos are, they ar not the techniques described in Japanese.
But thank you very much anyway.
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06-21-2012, 10:17 AM
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Dojo: Roberto Lopez
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Joe Curran wrote:
Dan,
No 1-a poor variant of Sankyo.2,A convoluted Kokyu Ho 3.A n aihamni udegarame nage.Cheers, Joe.
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Thank you very much for commenting.
N°1= I think the video is like a Priemer NIKKYO or SANKKYO
N°2= The second, as you well say is like a KOKYU HO or NANAMEKOKYU, not a : kote-ori-kakae-kimi, kuji-dori = Nikyo in which his elbow is in your armpit and his hand is pulled forward; Pinning their hand with your foot
N°3= The third is like a IKKYO and then projected, not a : Inverted nanakyo
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06-21-2012, 10:19 AM
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Dojo: Roberto Lopez
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Re: Help of tecnics
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David Soroko wrote:
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Thank you very much for looking videos.
Rokkyo already know, and the other techniques are not what I'm looking for.
But thank you very much anyway.
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06-21-2012, 10:23 AM
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Dojo: Roberto Lopez
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Dan Rubin wrote:
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First I want to thank you for the concern to find the video.
I think it is NOT what I'm looking, I have my doubts as to whether these techniques you see in the videos are really the techniques described in Japanese.
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06-21-2012, 10:24 AM
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Dojo: Roberto Lopez
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Dan Rubin wrote:
Joe
I've never heard of aikido techniques numbered past gokyo. I just found these on the internet (I googled "aikido nanakyo," etc.) and thought they might be what the OP is looking for. I think the OP got his list off aikidofaq.
I offer no opinion as to the validity or quality of the demonstrated techniques.
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First I want to thank you for the concern to find the video.
I think it is what I'm looking, I have my doubts as to whether these techniques you see in the videos are really the techniques described in Japanese.
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06-21-2012, 10:26 AM
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Dojo: Roberto Lopez
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Re: Help of tecnics
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David Soroko wrote:
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Thank you very much for looking videos.
Rokkyo already know, and the other techniques are not what I'm looking for.
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06-21-2012, 10:28 AM
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Dojo: Roberto Lopez
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Re: Help of tecnics
Could someone record a video and put it on yotube where you show these techniques?.
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06-21-2012, 10:51 AM
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Andrés Weber wrote:
Could someone record a video and put it on yotube where you show these techniques?.
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That's an awful lot to ask of strangers.
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Janet Rosen
http://www.zanshinart.com
"peace will enter when hate is gone"--percy mayfield
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06-21-2012, 11:04 AM
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Dojo: Roberto Lopez
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Janet Rosen wrote:
That's an awful lot to ask of strangers.
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My apologies if I ask something that is not authorized.
The question is only with good intentions and only with the desire to learn more of AIKIDO
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06-21-2012, 04:31 PM
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Re: Help of tecnics
Andrés, clearly people are attempting to help you by posting links, but all you can say is that is not the right technique.
So if you cannot even explain what you want using names of techniques that people know, how can anybody take the time and energy to go to the dojo with a video camera and start making videos that are probably not what you are looking for?
Why don't you ask your sensei or sempai to make videos?
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Janet Rosen
http://www.zanshinart.com
"peace will enter when hate is gone"--percy mayfield
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06-21-2012, 05:08 PM
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Marc Abrams wrote:
David:
Who uses a knife like that? Leaning forward, keeping the blade dead while out in front, spare hand lifeless..... I know that the purpose is for an instructional video, but geez, this guy should be attacking in a cleaner manner than that (I would hope). That kind of stuff looks good for the Zombie TV series, but outside of that.......
Regards,
Marc Abrams
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Marc, information on the participants is attached to the YouTube video. You can contact the uke with your concerns.
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06-21-2012, 08:02 PM
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Re: Help of tecnics
The names you're thinking of don't seem to be used often.
Really, I'm not sure if anyone will know what you're talking about without you giving them a video anyway.
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06-22-2012, 07:36 AM
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Dojo: Roberto Lopez
Location: Santiago
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Janet Rosen wrote:
Andrés, clearly people are attempting to help you by posting links, but all you can say is that is not the right technique.
So if you cannot even explain what you want using names of techniques that people know, how can anybody take the time and energy to go to the dojo with a video camera and start making videos that are probably not what you are looking for?
Why don't you ask your sensei or sempai to make videos?
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Thank you very much for giving your opinion and want to help.
Here in Chile, ouer options are very limited, these techniques are not common. I was hoping that someone on this board could help. I have 9 years practicing aikido and I've never seen, only know them by name. I do not belong in any federation and it is very difficult for some Japanese can help me.
the videos, I believe that not similar to the names and it is not in the comments that the technique is clear.
I'm just asking for some help and if anyone knows these techniques can explain to me, with viedeo or words or images.
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06-22-2012, 07:44 AM
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Dojo: Roberto Lopez
Location: Santiago
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Basia Halliop wrote:
The names you're thinking of don't seem to be used often.
Really, I'm not sure if anyone will know what you're talking about without you giving them a video anyway.
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Thank you very much
I agree with you, they are very gimmicky techniques, I can make a video, but I think it makes no sense to do Ikkyo, Nikkyo, Sankyo, Yonkyo, Gokyo, Rokyo, because I want to learn Nannakyo, Hakyo, Kukyo and Jukyo.
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06-22-2012, 08:26 AM
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Dojo: Boulder Aikikai
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Thanks, David. I knew that. I should have said that I've never heard of aikido techniques numbered past rokyo. The problem is that I can't count past gokyo.
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06-22-2012, 11:26 AM
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Location: Boston, MA, USA
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Andrés Weber wrote:
... because I want to learn Nannakyo, Hakyo, Kukyo and Jukyo ...
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There's been a bit of discussion here in the past, of course, on this subject - that is, the quite-varied practice, provenance, and nomenclature for the less-frequently encountered waza ... see perhaps:
http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103
http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8033
There's only limited technical details (and I think only for nanakyo, or at least, that which is sometimes called nanakyo by some people). I stopped looking but I think there was also some past discussion on when and by whom some these entered some aikido curriculum ...
John
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06-22-2012, 11:27 AM
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Re: Help of tecnics
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Dan Rubin wrote:
Thanks, David. I knew that. I should have said that I've never heard of aikido techniques numbered past rokyo. The problem is that I can't count past gokyo.
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I am sure there is a You Tube video to fix that :-)
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