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11-06-2013, 08:14 AM
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Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
In various threads, I've been criticized for saying a nuclear plant could "blow up" or "explode," spewing nuclear material around the area and resulting in many deaths.
While the Fukushima disaster has not yet produced any great number of verifiable deaths and the government is covering up medical information on children with thyroid cysts and tumors, bleeding, etc., new information suggests that the explosion was NOT a hydrogen explosion, as TEPCO claimed, but an actual NUCLEAR explosion:
"‘I watched video of the Reactor 3 explosion,' said veteran Japanese nuclear-reactor designer Setsuo Fujiwara. ‘There was an orange flash, which suggests the temperature must have been thousands of degrees centigrade before the explosion. Then there was black smoke.' Fujiwara insisted to me that a hydrogen explosion created white smoke and steam, as witnessed after the Reactor 1 building was torn apart. He continued, ‘The second piece of evidence is that plutonium was scattered about after this blast. Plutonium is consistent with the mixed oxide fuel [used in Reactor 3]. The third point is that the Reactor 3 building was bent like candy, unlike the Reactor 1 building, where the steel framework remained intact. So this could only mean it was a nuclear explosion.'"
http://enenews.com/reactor-designer-...highest-levels
Not pleasing to me, but it does need to be established that nuclear plants can blow up with nuclear explosions and spew "contained" nuclear material into the environment.
Now the question is how to disarm ALL these ticking time bombs. The US has many such facilities as the GE reactors at Fukushima, many of them situated on earthquake fault lines and many of them leaking and releasing nuclear contamination on a regular basis.
There should be no question remaining that nuclear power CANNOT be safely generated over a long period of time. It's far past time to decommission EVERY nuclear power plant in the world.
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11-06-2013, 08:15 PM
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Re: Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
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David Orange wrote:
In various threads, I've been criticized for saying a nuclear plant could "blow up" or "explode," spewing nuclear material around the area and resulting in many deaths.
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There should be no question remaining that nuclear power CANNOT be safely generated over a long period of time. It's far past time to decommission EVERY nuclear power plant in the world.
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David, I really can't see the point of bringing this discussion to Aikiweb. Also, as someone residing in Japan I also take offense at all this fear-mongering, using unsubstantiated claims about the disaster to push a political agenda.
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11-07-2013, 07:49 AM
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Re: Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
Burning fossil fuels damages the environment when everything is operating normally.
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11-07-2013, 12:52 PM
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Re: Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
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David, I really can't see the point of bringing this discussion to Aikiweb. Also, as someone residing in Japan I also take offense at all this fear-mongering, using unsubstantiated claims about the disaster to push a political agenda.
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I have been following Fukushima for two years. I used to be a radiographer and, while I don't understand everything, I probably know more than the average person. If you want to hear an expert who has actually done some hands on down-to-earth (literally) research check out Chris Busby. I don't want to believe it ... but maybe you need to be better informed. I was in Japan last year for 6 months - there is almost nothing in Japanese media about this ... but it is in people's minds of you talk to them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9pk42kdL4k
What ever you think, there is a lot that needs to be done. A lot. It is no use burying your head in the sand on this one.
Chris Busby has put out several vids over the last two years. Check them out.
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11-07-2013, 08:42 PM
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Re: Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
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I have been following Fukushima for two years. I used to be a radiographer and, while I don't understand everything, I probably know more than the average person. If you want to hear an expert who has actually done some hands on down-to-earth (literally) research check out Chris Busby. I don't want to believe it ... but maybe you need to be better informed. I was in Japan last year for 6 months - there is almost nothing in Japanese media about this ... but it is in people's minds of you talk to them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9pk42kdL4k
What ever you think, there is a lot that needs to be done. A lot. It is no use burying your head in the sand on this one.
Chris Busby has put out several vids over the last two years. Check them out.
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Let's check out the man himself instead...
No more from me on this issue. Have a nice day.
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11-07-2013, 08:53 PM
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Re: Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
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11-07-2013, 10:54 PM
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Re: Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
Japanese politician causes uproar by giving letter on Fukushima to emperor
Taro Yamamoto faces criticism after handing note to Emperor Akihito at garden party in breach of strict protocol
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ushima-emperor
I wonder if he got to read it.
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11-08-2013, 10:52 PM
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Re: Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
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Tore Eriksson wrote:
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David, I really can't see the point of bringing this discussion to Aikiweb. Also, as someone residing in Japan I also take offense at all this fear-mongering, using unsubstantiated claims about the disaster to push a political agenda.
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Tore, we've had a number of these discussions here. And it's not a political agenda. It's just a continuation of a long disagreement over whether a nuclear plant can "explode."
From what I'm hearing, no matter where we live, if the fuel pool blows, we'll all regret it.
I don't thin we should let it slide from our consciousness.
Best to you and yours.
David
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11-08-2013, 10:56 PM
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Re: Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
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It would be more appropriate if the beaten horse were to explode with a mushroom cloud….
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"That which has no substance can enter where there is no room."
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11-08-2013, 11:02 PM
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Re: Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
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If it were really dead, there would be no reason to mention it, but this horse is likely to rise again and run wild across the earth. Spreading flowers, of course, but still...
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"That which has no substance can enter where there is no room."
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11-08-2013, 11:07 PM
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Re: Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
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If it were really dead, there would be no reason to mention it, but this horse is likely to rise again and run wild across the earth. Spreading flowers, of course, but still...
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And it's hardly "beating a dead horse" when we still have many of those GE plants in operation in the US, many on fault lines. The point here is that ANY of those plants could very well "explode" in the same way at almost any time. Sure, it might take an earthquake, but I think there are over 20 nuclear plants on the New Madrid fault line, so it's not purely theoretical musing. These things are a continuing threat to all human life.
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01-14-2014, 09:51 AM
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Re: Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
And Dr. Helen Caldicott is hardly an ignorant alarmist. She understands the difference between becquerels and roentgens, etc. And she agrees with me.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/...arly-explains/
Chilling.
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01-14-2014, 05:26 PM
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Re: Looks like Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion
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I certainly see this all as very serious. Right now I have to decide whether to go to Japan or not. Normally it would have been so easy ... but I have been procrastinating ... but will probably go. I used to be a radiographer (1980s). I got out after Chernobyl woke me up. But, I have to say, I have learned more about radiation over the last two years than I knew when I was working in the industry... chilling - is certainly the right word.
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