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Old 02-13-2005, 12:30 AM   #1
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Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

AikiWeb Poll for the week of February 13, 2005:

If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?
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Old 02-13-2005, 03:54 AM   #2
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

I would change doctors.
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Old 02-13-2005, 04:25 AM   #3
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your healt

I'll second that.
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Old 02-13-2005, 07:43 AM   #4
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

i would third that...
and - I also voted yes because even if there was some element of aikido that was bad for my health, I can't imagine not being able to find a way to alter my training slightly to avoid that damage.

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Old 02-13-2005, 08:49 AM   #5
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

If my doctor was 2nd dan or higher I might consider discussing options with them.

Actually the doctor I have would probbly not go so far as to tell me to quit training, but maybe adapt certain aspects.

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Old 02-13-2005, 09:19 AM   #6
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I don't go to any doctors because i don't trust them with my health. Only if i broke a bone, or was in some other way physically unable to practice aikido, i would stop until I was healed.
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Old 02-13-2005, 10:29 AM   #7
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

The doctor should understand their job would be to help me to continue to practice. I would stop but it would take the opinion of more than one.

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Old 02-13-2005, 11:22 AM   #8
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

Been there, told that, still training and doing well.

If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. If the only tool you have is a scapel and medication, and you've never done Aikido, and most of the courses you have studied have been in sickness/pathology not health/wellness, well then I always try to consider the source of the information/opinion I get.

IMHO, doctors can offer opinions and advice based on what they know and think, but the final decisions are always our own. The quality of my life matters and Aikido adds to its quality.

Lynn Seiser PhD
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Old 02-13-2005, 01:48 PM   #9
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your healt

I was told to quit just this past week (arthritis).

I haven't, and I won't.

Lynn, I hope my experiences end up being as positive as yours.

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Old 02-13-2005, 02:52 PM   #10
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

One of my dojomates had her wrists x-rayed once, and the docs were aghast-- the bones looked pulled apart. "What's wrong with your wrists!!" they said. "Oh, I just do aikido..."

Couldn't blame a sensible doc for advising one to stay away since this isn't exactly the safest of recreational activities. ("And tell me again what you don't understand about the "R" in "RICE"-- Rest, Ice, Circulation and Elevation?")

On the other hand, my acupuncturist said my pulses became nice and strong when I started practicing!
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Old 02-13-2005, 07:03 PM   #11
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

After several torn ligaments and a minor concusion, my mom, a medical-rehab doctor, repeatedly suggested that I tone down my training a bit... Never told me to quit tho...
Interestingly, most doctors specializing in medical-rehab and sport-medicine agree that in most martial art dojos, warm-ups and particularly stretching are inadequate or done incorrectly...

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Old 02-14-2005, 02:11 AM   #12
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

Depend on.....
My experience is that you should get second opinion and then decide what to do. I have diabetes for 11 years now and my first doctor told me not to train (running marathon). I experienced that my health has always been better when training. I have been sent to a specialist for diagnostics and a new doctor has been specialized in sport and told me (in my case) that what makes me feel good and more healthy I can train(knowing your limits). I joined Aikido 5 years ago and my illness has newer stop me to do what I want to do. I live better with Aikido .
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Old 02-14-2005, 06:30 AM   #13
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for you.......

Oops, I voted 'No' by mistake. I would not stop training just because my doctor said so. It would depend on why he thought it would be bad, and I would do research on the Web and ask people here and on Aikido-L what they thought. AND I would definitely get a second opinion (and maybe change doctors).

Berna Bleeker
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Old 02-14-2005, 08:27 AM   #14
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

Quote:
RICE"-- Rest, Ice, Circulation and Elevation
Isn't it "Rest, Ice, COMPRESSION, Elevation"? At least that's what I always learned... circulation is good too though :-)

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Old 02-14-2005, 10:32 AM   #15
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

Too vague IMHO. What does very bad for my health mean? Since Aikido has done nothing but enhance my overall well being I am having a hard time visualizing this. But very bad implied life threatening to me so I answered no.

If Aikido gave you cancer, damaged your heart/lung/liver/kidney function, ability to reason, etc... I doubt most folks would continue... then again there's nothing good about cigarette smoking ; )

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Old 02-14-2005, 11:00 AM   #16
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

I wouldn't quit practicing aikido just because some loon told me to...But that's just me...

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Old 02-14-2005, 11:49 AM   #17
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

Jennifer

Good on you. I had arthritis well before I started Aikido Training. The training has helped my fledxibility significantly
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Old 02-14-2005, 06:00 PM   #18
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

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Ed OConnor wrote:
If Aikido gave you cancer, damaged your heart/lung/liver/kidney function, ability to reason, etc... I doubt most folks would continue... then again there's nothing good about cigarette smoking ; )
Ed

My teacher - Sensei Ted Stratton - died of cancer in 2000, but he taught and trained Aikido to the end (he had cancer, parkinsons and diabeties! Anther thing to think of is what level you are. Staying with Aikido is different to starting Aikido. Once you are practicing Aikido, you can keep going, instead of starting something new.

I tore my MCL in January 2002, and I ended up in a leg brace! Hakama on over leg brace and carry on! I trained every day! No suwari and my kamae was higher, but I did it! But hey, I was the teacher!!!

There is a lot to be said for keeping yourself going by training, and when you stop so does everything else!

Keep training!

Last edited by siwilson : 02-14-2005 at 06:02 PM.

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Old 02-15-2005, 03:26 AM   #19
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

With 'very bad' I assumed that we are talking risk of getting permanently paralyzed or perhaps even the risk of dying. Under this assumption I voted 'No'. I wouldn't be able to justify my kids loosing their father just because I need to go on practicing Aikido. if the ukemi was the reason I was in danger I would probably do something else like kyo-do and I would probably do a lot more AI-do than I do now, but even though I love Aikido It's not enough to risk hurting my loved ones. I know there is a small risk in the daily practice as it is, but I calculate this to be even lower than the risk of getting hurt when driving in a car or walking on the street. We have to live - and life is by definition filled with risks, however there is no need to be stupid. If you are in real danger of getting seriously damaged from continued practice then there is no doubt in my mind that I would stop. Life is precious - and so are my kids.

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Old 02-15-2005, 07:46 AM   #20
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

I usually don't recommend someone with a herniated disc to practice since they cannot handle the impacts.
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Old 02-15-2005, 08:44 AM   #21
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

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Isn't it "Rest, Ice, COMPRESSION, Elevation"? At least that's what I always learned... circulation is good too though :-)
oops, the C in RICE does stand for "compression"... no wonder things have been taking so long to heal... unless it's from skipping the whole "R" thing!
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Old 02-15-2005, 02:44 PM   #22
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

Most GPs are informed and equipped only to handle "couch potato" lifestyles. I find that the active body is a healthier one. My clients as a bodyworker are soldiers, they cannot stop what they do. So I find ways for them to carry on, unless they are just being silly. Injuries must rest, certain things (spinal problems and defects) must be respected. I voted No, because I know what my body can tolerate better than a doc does. I just taught class after being down for a week with a virus. It felt great. They sweat, I watch. LOL! Seriously, I have learned to pace myself and care for myself. Find a good sports doc, or one who trains. Don't ever remove a positive part of your life, don't take no for an answer if Yes is a better one.
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:49 AM   #23
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

Statistically 100% of people that quit Aikido eventually die.

You have no choice but to keep practicing when faced with that sort of hard evidence.

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Old 02-16-2005, 12:18 PM   #24
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Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

Why is it that what doctors do is called practice, surely they should be good at it after going through medical school.

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Old 02-16-2005, 08:37 PM   #25
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Ai symbol Re: Poll: If doctors told you that continuing aikido would be very bad for your health, would you continue training?

Yeah...I think if a doctor advised you to quit something called Aikido because continuing it would be bad for your health, that something could not in fact be called "Aikido". The concepts are mutually exclusive.
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