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Old 09-07-2017, 08:46 AM   #1
Dothemo
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Daito Ryu and Aikido

Hi folks,

I was wondering, how different is Daito Ryu from Aikido? Is it true that Aikido is derived from Daito Ryu? Has anyone here trained in both, what are your thoughts? Thankyou.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:39 AM   #2
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Re: Daito Ryu and Aikido

“Correlation of Aikido and Daito-Ryu Waza” by John Driscoll,
http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?p=328569
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Old 09-07-2017, 11:17 AM   #3
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Re: Daito Ryu and Aikido

From observations of Daito Ryu (I haven't yet had to opportunity to train in it), I get the impression that DR places even greater emphasis on atemi: in a waza we would call "ikkyo" in Aikido, where we would have probably have one atemi, at most, DR might have four. DR seems to be more okay with practicing on the "edge of danger", but some strains of Aikido do as well (e.g. Birankai of the late T.K. Chiba-shihan; certain of his direct students, especially).

Aikido also seems to have dropped quite a few of the jūjutsu techniques of DR (as compared to the aiki no jutsu techniques), I haven't really progressed far enough in Aikido to express very well, in words, what the difference is between the two is, but the difference is there, none the less.

Finally, while Daito Ryu does seem to have a "sword that gives life" philosophy, it also seems to better recognize that there could be instances where it is indeed necessary to take life, as evidenced that much of their waza retains simulations of a finishing/killing move.
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Old 09-20-2017, 01:53 PM   #4
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Re: Daito Ryu and Aikido

This could be explained if one compares Judo, Jujitsu, and Aikido.

Judo is the basis of combat. Which is technique, a sequence of movements which allows you to overcome an opponent under the circumstances prescribed. At this level, you have an arsenal of techniques which can all be rendered useless if your opponent has a technique of his own which overcomes yours.

Jujitsu is the refinement of combat. Understanding the effect of the technique, and causing the effect without the need for a specific technique in the first place. Aikijujitsu is at this level, where one uses Aiki to cause an effect that would normally require a specific to engender.

Aikido is the transcending of combat. Perceiving the energy that powers an attack, and affecting that energy, instead of the physical form through which energy flows. Techniques in Aikido are done, not with the purpose of honing the technique itself, but feeling and grasping the flow of energy that results from a successful throw. And from there, attacking that flow of energy in combat.

The difference between Aikijujitsu and Aikido is that Aikido is a difference in vision, even in levels of understanding. If I might be so bold.
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