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Old 02-15-2007, 09:29 PM   #1
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Eek! I had an "aiki moment" today

The technique was Irimi Nage, omote from ai hamni katata katata tori grip. I was training with one of the newer fellowers (his second or third class) and I was having trouble with the technique we were supposed to be doing because he was sort of muscling against my movements therefore making me do the same in order to get the move in right. I know that in Aikido as a general rule uke's are expected to be somewhat complient with you throughout the technique, so I thought about saying something like "Just relax and go with the flow" or "calm down, we're not fighting eachother here" so that I could do the technique without muscling it all the way through. However I soon realized a much better way to go about the situation. He didn't want to go that way I could tell......but it just so happened that by resisting omote he fell perfectly into the ura version! It brought a big smile to my face when I did this, just because it was almost like I was actually doing some aikido y'know....the path of least resistance, and all that good stuff. I have come to the conclusion that I have obviously mastered the art, and have no need for further training....

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Old 02-15-2007, 09:54 PM   #2
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Re: I had an "aiki moment" today

Another aiki option would be to call your Sensei and ask him to show you how to do this technique properly This is usually quite enlightening for Uke as well.

I kind of like such situations as I take them as a challenge to make the technique work despite Uke's non-cooperation, but still without forcing.
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:18 AM   #3
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Re: I had an "aiki moment" today

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....from ai hamni katata katata tori grip.....

Was trying to image wat you were doing?

katate dori is gripping one of uke's wrist with one of your hands.
Ryote dori is gripping both uke's wrists, one in each of your hands.
Morote dori is gripping one of uke's wrists with both of your hands.

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A difficult problem is easily solved by asking yourself the question, "Just how would the Lone Ranger handle this?"
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:23 AM   #4
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Re: I had an "aiki moment" today

Then that would be katate dori, and we were grabbing the same wrist (ai hamni)

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Old 02-16-2007, 03:25 AM   #5
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Re: I had an "aiki moment" today

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Then that would be katate dori, and we were grabbing the same wrist (ai hamni)
That would be called Kosadori where I practice.
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Old 02-16-2007, 04:02 AM   #6
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Re: I had an "aiki moment" today

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. I have come to the conclusion that I have obviously mastered the art, and have no need for further training....

Nothing could be further from an aiki moment.

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Old 02-16-2007, 11:13 AM   #7
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Re: I had an "aiki moment" today

aw, heck, everybody is raining on your parade. sheesh.
Yes, nice one - give up having a preconceived goal and let uke tell you where he really "wants" to go :-)

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Old 02-16-2007, 03:23 PM   #8
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Re: I had an "aiki moment" today

I had a similar situation with Ikkyo awhile ago. My uke wasn't "attacking me right" (ha,ha) and was turning his body after shomen uchi so I wasn't catching his arm/elbow early enough for omote. Sensei was saying my timing was bad, and I started to get really frustrated....I could do ura easily during this, but that wasn't what we were working on.
It all comes with patience and practice.

It's all a process. Let it flow :0)
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:30 AM   #9
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Re: I had an "aiki moment" today

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Another aiki option would be to call your Sensei and ask him to show you how to do this technique properly This is usually quite enlightening for Uke as well.

I kind of like such situations as I take them as a challenge to make the technique work despite Uke's non-cooperation, but still without forcing.

often calling sensei over your partner never applies the same resistance.
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Old 02-17-2007, 08:53 AM   #10
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Re: I had an "aiki moment" today

That is fantastic, Mike...

Your Sensei can only guide you, you will actually progress by these types of revelations. It is so exhilarating to discover these things on your own.

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Old 02-18-2007, 06:12 AM   #11
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Re: I had an "aiki moment" today

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give up having a preconceived goal and let uke tell you where he really "wants" to go
Words of wisdom...
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