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Old 07-14-2006, 03:41 PM   #1
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Endemic aikido

Springing off the "in 100 years.." thread.

What would the world be like if aikido was utterly endemic? IE if it were practiced by all sections of the population: school kids, politicians, doctors, lawyers, criminals, etc.

If that's a bit of a stretch of the imagination, how about if it was just as popular as football (soccer)?

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Old 07-14-2006, 04:53 PM   #2
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If AikiWeb is anything to go by, there would be a lot of colourful discussion going on ad infinitum

I can't imagine that it would be anything but of positive benefit to the world. I've thought for a long time that aikido in all schools would be a healthy addition to the curriculum, particularly if the 'martial' side was played down so to speak (not that I want that to disappear, it could just come in later if neccessary ).

As for football.. if Zidane had learnt aikido he probably wouldn't have got set off in the World Cup final ( mind you as far as butts go it was a pretty good one ), a shame that such a great player went out of his last game like that.

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Old 07-14-2006, 08:35 PM   #3
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I've thought for a long time that aikido in all schools would be a healthy addition to the curriculum
me too!
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Old 07-14-2006, 09:45 PM   #4
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I'm sure if it was endemic, the non-competitive aspect would be totally out the window.
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Old 07-14-2006, 10:17 PM   #5
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I'm sure if it was endemic, the non-competitive aspect would be totally out the window.
that's an interesting thought.
unfortunately, you're probably right.
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Old 07-15-2006, 08:41 AM   #6
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If non-competitive traditional aikido was widespread perhaps the need to turn everything into a competition would not be so strong. This could be seen to effect the way relationships are carried out and even the economic system? In this regard I often see aikido as being very anti (or perhaps healing) of the spirit of our times.

Knee doctors would also be held in very high regard ;-)
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Old 07-15-2006, 12:13 PM   #7
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I have a bad feeling that this type of overexposure or use would not be good at all for aikido. Call me a pessimist but I don't trust the grand public of differentiating the difference between kung fu, ninjas, or aikido when it comes down to technique, history, or most importantly, the philosophy. My prediction: A whole lot of people doing techniques sub-par and frankly, are dangerous. We don't need little kids or teens learning elbow locks at school. Police; fine but I'm sure they aren't thinking of keeping the criminal unhurt during the arrest. As for criminals; my God, O Sensei must be rolling in his grave. That's the last part of society we want practicing aikido. I think only a small percentage will realize what aikido is really about. The rest will see it as just another means to kick someones @$$, nothing more. Plus, who will be doing all this teaching; my gym teacher? Please. This is not a good idea people. Let those that will practice aikido find aikido in the proper settings; dojos, seminars etc. not gym class in high school. Anyhoo, please feel free to rant away at my reply. Thanks!!
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Old 07-15-2006, 02:10 PM   #8
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I have a bad feeling that this type of overexposure or use would not be good at all for aikido. Call me a pessimist but I don't trust the grand public of differentiating the difference between kung fu, ninjas, or aikido when it comes down to technique, history, or most importantly, the philosophy. My prediction: A whole lot of people doing techniques sub-par and frankly, are dangerous. We don't need little kids or teens learning elbow locks at school. Police; fine but I'm sure they aren't thinking of keeping the criminal unhurt during the arrest. As for criminals; my God, O Sensei must be rolling in his grave. That's the last part of society we want practicing aikido. I think only a small percentage will realize what aikido is really about. The rest will see it as just another means to kick someones @$$, nothing more. Plus, who will be doing all this teaching; my gym teacher? Please. This is not a good idea people. Let those that will practice aikido find aikido in the proper settings; dojos, seminars etc. not gym class in high school. Anyhoo, please feel free to rant away at my reply. Thanks!!

i completely agree.
Aikido would mostly likely be gone to pot if it were as mainstream as football or baseball.

And i would be willing to bet that the general public will not focus so much time on a hobby unless they can compete to see who is the best. This is the only way to make something mainstream. The reason football is mainstream is because we can watch it on tv and cheer for our favorite team and make bets and what not. If we couldn't do that with aikido, then it wouldn't keep anyone's attention long enough to become popular.

It's sad but true.
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Old 07-15-2006, 03:53 PM   #9
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Springing off the "in 100 years.." thread.

What would the world be like if aikido was utterly endemic? IE if it were practiced by all sections of the population: school kids, politicians, doctors, lawyers, criminals, etc.

If that's a bit of a stretch of the imagination, how about if it was just as popular as football (soccer)?

Imagine...
Mark
I think there would be different styles of Aikido; Aikido for the masses, Aikido for the peaceniks, spiritual Aikido, Aikido for the intellectuals (they don't really practice, just talk about it), Aikido for those who want to break bones and make people bleed ,Aikido for healing what ails you, Aikido for practical application, etc.
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Old 07-15-2006, 04:00 PM   #10
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I think there would be different styles of Aikido; Aikido for the masses, Aikido for the peaceniks, spiritual Aikido, Aikido for the intellectuals (they don't really practice, just talk about it), Aikido for those who want to break bones and make people bleed ,Aikido for healing what ails you, Aikido for practical application, etc.
Political Aikido
Seems pretty much like all the seeds have been sown, some will fall on stoney ground, some will flourish...the intellectuals can discuss the size and colour of thier stones

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Old 07-15-2006, 04:02 PM   #11
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...the itellectuals can discuss the size and colour of thier stones
and how many.
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