Uses of the Hara within different traditions

Joep Schuurkes wrote: But is there a difference in usage of the hara/dantien when issuing peng jin (rebounding force) versus doing a shoulder strike?

Hmm.. interesting question.

Not really how to explain it, but I guess it could be the short jin vs the long jin. Long is to bounce people away and the short is to damage the target putting in a short jerking pulse (dou jin- shaking force).

Every move in Dai has to have the trade mark contraction and expansion of the body with the dan tian rolling.

JB

Jon Dyer wrote: Not really how to explain it, but I guess it could be the short jin vs the long jin.

So the dantien/hara does something different for short jin vs long jin? Wherein lies the difference, then?

Joep Schuurkes wrote: So the dantien/hara does something different for short jin vs long jin? Wherein lies the difference, then?

I don't think there is any difference in how the dan tian coordinates with the movement, but is just in the velocity of how the force is applied.

Jay

Hi to my fellow AIKIDOKA, I am interested in the topic The HARA or the Center Wieght and Mass of the TAI or Body. This Movable Human Body involves Energy or the Force, The different motions are from here. Both the ASHI or Foot are affecting the HARA, but during SEISAN and SAHO sometimes involves Hand to certain position, also during the Crawling Waza as Ukemi Hand Do the most. Even the UKEMI during the Nage Waza, do his position with Hara and fall.