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Old 05-19-2008, 08:00 AM   #76
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Re: The Uke, Compliance and Qi

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I suspect this is about the level of ethics most of us had you pegged at.

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Mike,

Your word fluency is elluding you. Try again.

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Joe

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Old 05-19-2008, 08:05 AM   #77
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Your word fluency is elluding you. Try again.
Classic. You try to talk down to someone and you misspell "eluding".
 
Old 05-19-2008, 08:06 AM   #78
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Mike,

Your word fluency is elluding you. Try again.

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Joe
And your spelling is eluding you. LOL.

How about let's not try again, obviously you're going to pollute the board until everyone ignores you, and then claim victory. Whatever makes you feel better. I recommend a psychiatrist.

Mike has met up with lots of people, all of whom verify that he teaches actual body mechanics, as opposed to just blathering about feminine energy and other nonsense and calling that internal. You don't know what you're talking about, it's obvious to everyone, but your ego won't let you walk away. It's time for the moderator to shut this thread down.
 
Old 05-19-2008, 08:32 AM   #79
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Classic. You try to talk down to someone and you misspell "eluding".
Mike,

Thank you for picking that up. I value you as a proof reader.

Best
Joe

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Old 05-19-2008, 08:41 AM   #80
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Joseph
Leave me out of the discussion unless you care to address me directly. I don't recall engaging you here-mostly for the simple reason that after reviewing various materials from you I consider you a waste of time.
Your knife video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfelZfbZnQs
should be considered a treatise on what NOT to do when engaging in weapons work. In any discussion on Uke and compliance it is a model of those very ideas; compliance and Uke not knowing what the hell they are doing. That crap is not going to work well for you with someone who knows how to play. Your distancing and targeting and retained connection in knife work reminds me of all of the other inane "combat knife' videos of the 90's. I see you are pleased that your are published- then again so are many; from the excellent to the loopy, strange, and outright ridiculous. Evidence shows being published as a martial art teacher is without meaning.

As for your off-hand comparisons of me to Mike and Rob. You don't know any of us, so what are you comparing?
I'm not a young guy, I have been round the block and back again, and contrary to many suburban white boy martial artists I have been stabbed, stabbed at, and been in nasty places many times. You may carry that forward to my lengthy proclivity of getting a kick out of beating the crap out of TMAers who think they got the stuff. Most fail from the lack of the proper mental fortitude before it even begins-onward to the ridiculous things they do that they consider effective in a live environment. Add to that showing them effective means of generating real power and sensitivity in their bodies as I am able.
All that said I would NEVER claim an expertise in anything. Men I know who ARE experts consider it to be rather a burden that gets in the way of their own play time. Odd that I never hear them refer to themselves that way. Most call themselves students.

You and your students are pleased with your training. I'd leave it at that.
Please refrain from responding or addressing me. I'm not interested in a dialogue with you
Good luck in your pursuits.

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Old 05-19-2008, 09:07 AM   #81
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I would like to remind folks about that wonderful feature, the "ignore" button. I use it occasionally to keep my "wa" harmonious. This forum should be called "Mutual Pissing Contests" rather than Non-Aikido Martial Traditions; reminds me of the old Saturday Night Live Newscasts with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtain. "Jane you ignorant slut..." "Dan you fascist pig".

Seriously, it isn't worth it. Once you know that virtually nothing you say will register with someone and it's apparent that nothing they say will be something you agree with, then there's no reason to have further exchange. When you have someone who consistently creates acrimonious exchanges or whose contributions are quite simply of the self aggrandizement type, then push the button on them and back to exchanging with folks who are interested in what you are saying or are saying something you are interested in hearing.

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Old 05-19-2008, 09:21 AM   #82
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I would like to remind folks about that wonderful feature, the "ignore" button. I use it occasionally to keep my "wa" harmonious. This forum should be called "Mutual Pissing Contests" rather than Non-Aikido Martial Traditions; reminds me of the old Saturday Night Live Newscasts with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtain. "Jane you ignorant slut..." "Dan you fascist pig".

Seriously, it isn't worth it. Once you know that virtually nothing you say will register with someone and it's apparent that nothing they say will be something you agree with, then there's no reason to have further exchange. When you have someone who consistently creates acrimonious exchanges or whose contributions are quite simply of the self aggrandizement type, then push the button on them and back to exchanging with folks who are interested in what you are saying or are saying something you are interested in hearing.
Sensei,

You are correct. But, I think "all" of us still enjoy watching Saturday Night Live. We especially like the "classics".

Now, imagine what it must be like for our "leaders" in government. They have to filter through what is "real" and what is not. I have a hard enough time raising my kids as they shout and fight between each other. So, being on this board is but a "fractal" of real life. Isn't it just "classic"?

But, thank you for your input Sensei. I think you are probably a better man than I.

Best,
Joseph T.Oliva Arriola

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Old 05-19-2008, 11:12 AM   #83
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Thread closed due to its devolving into personal discussions.

Come on, folks. You know better.

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