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moon in the water Blog Tools Rating: Rate This Blog
Creation Date: 04-26-2010 10:46 PM
the water does not try
to reflect the moon
and the moon has no desire
to be reflected
but when the clouds clear
there is the moon in the water
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In Techniques shiho nage: the acid test Entry Tools Rating: 5 Stars!
  #25 New 10-15-2010 10:00 AM
shiho nage: the acid test When posture (shi sei, form and force) is perfect, the movement that follows is perfect as well.
Taisen Deshimaru, The Zen Way to the Martial Arts

You can do this acid test for almost any technique but it's particularly clear for shiho nage because of the distinct point - the turn - in the middle of the technique. You can do the check on your own first if you want and then with a partner. Of course you can dissect any technique into many parts and in many ways but for this broad-brush approach I just want to break shiho nage down into three phases. Katatedori is the simplest to analyze but it's the same for all variations.

1. before the technique
2. the technique (and especially the turn)
3. after the technique

Step 1 is really easy because you are in complete control of your body before the technique begins and before the uke takes a grip. So all you have to do is keep a good posture with your shoulders relaxed and your chest open. Easy, right. Anyone can do it. It's your body and no-one is gripping it so you can be perfectly relaxed.

Step 2 is the technique itself. Do it normally but as you turn, and immediately after the turn, check the position of your chest and shoulders. Inevitably you're going to notice that your chest has closed and your shoulders have lifted automatically. Complete the throw as normal keeping zanshin at the finish which leads into step 3.

Step 3 is also easy because you are in complete control of your body again after the uke has been thrown and the technique has finished. So again consciously keep a great posture, full of zanshin and with your shoulders relaxed and your chest open.

So the second step is the acid test. That's going to tell you everything you need to know. If your shoulders are up and your chest is closed after that turn you're not doing it right yet. It will take many, many years of sincere training to get it right.

By the time you can do that turn naturally - with your chest open and without lifting your shoulders - you'll probably be a shihan. But in the meantime you have complete control over your body for step one and step three. And two out of three ain't bad.

cool photo: Signpost: Bramhope Cross by Tim Green aka atoach http://www.flickr.com/photos/atoach/3912988890/, photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/atoach/ used under creative commons licence. Shiho nage is the four directions throw. Two out of three ain't bad by Meatloaf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8JA9Qs2Mho

niall matthews 2010
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RSS Feed 12 Responses to "shiho nage: the acid test"
#12 11-19-2010 02:41 AM
niall Says:
Thanks, Carina.
#11 11-12-2010 09:59 AM
guest1234567 Says:
Buenas noches Niall you also takes ukes arm going a step away to imbalance him and then you turn, as you say relaxing the shoulders.
#10 11-11-2010 09:05 AM
niall Says:
So the turn takes many years to get right. But meanwhile everybody can control the start and the finish of the technique. So if you are careful to keep relaxed at the beginning and the end you are already two thirds of the way there! (2 out of 3 ain't bad! the Meatloaf song). Buenas noches.
#9 11-11-2010 08:52 AM
guest1234567 Says:
Thanks I understand now and will look very close every shihonage, and it is very late for you. Good night..
#8 11-11-2010 08:47 AM
niall Says:
Hi Carina. The turn is the critical point because it is very clear and easy to judge. Almost everyone has tension in their shoulders after the turn in shihonage, If you can do it smoothly without tension you are probably a shihan already. And many, many shihan cannot do shiho nage yet without tension.
#7 11-11-2010 08:33 AM
guest1234567 Says:
Pls Niall I don'understand it, could you explain me
#6 11-11-2010 08:02 AM
niall Says:
And by the way noone told me they passed the shihonage acid test. That's not surprising. There are only a few people in the world who could.
#5 11-10-2010 11:22 AM
guest1234567 Says:
Ok I will, thanks
#4 11-10-2010 08:02 AM
niall Says:
Thank you, Carina. I like that image a lot. Check out the post wind forest fire mountain for another perspective on the elements
#3 11-10-2010 01:26 AM
guest1234567 Says:
Shihonage was my favourite technique at the beginning, now I like them all, except perhaps koshinage more diffficult for me.I'd like to share the image of the power of the 4 directions http://www.nald.ca/library/learning/chikiken/page51.htm
#2 10-16-2010 09:18 AM
niall Says:
Thanks Billy. Wow that was lucky with the photo! I knew it was Yorkshire but I just chose it because it was so cool. Good luck to Dave and Chris. Cheers, Niall
#1 10-16-2010 05:55 AM
Makochan Says:
Niall; Very appropriate blog perfect timing. Tuesday, Chris showed me one of many weaknesses in my katatedori shiho nage (my nemesis, like many other techniques), I was very grateful to Chris, I hope he knows. The blog is good for Dave, I am always on at him about posture. Will try the acid test after our Kyu grading. Dave and Chris will grade to 3rd Dan and 2nd Dan, 27 Nov, good luck to both. Love graphic as Huddersfield is in the Centre (a good sign, I hope). Kindest, Billy

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