Chuang Tzu leaves the real world to Han Fei Tzu. Han Fei prefers to predefine that which is "the good". Life is good. Death is not good. Rules/laws are iplaced in government to preserve life. Chuang Tzu questions everything. Is death so bad? Who is to say? When asked to go to the palace to consult the king, he said, "leave me to sit in my mudhole". Great path for a monk, but not if you are married with children. Still, he is my favorite of the old wise men....idelaist that I am.

I like Chaung Tzu. He beats the philosophical bush to raise the snakes. But he rarely shows how to put the snakes back into a pit. His unencumbered mind only comes from much toil chasing the goal. Try telling your wife that you will stop her rape without being concerned about success. She will suggest you have not practiced enough to have that attitude.

niceee, i like i alot, holds true!