One more iwamaivanovo!
Hi all, one more iwama style aikido in Russia video clip!
http://www.iwamaivanovo.ru/video/rbi_oyowaza.wmv Good luck! |
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To me, it seems a little more choppy than the aikido i take, (which is traditional aikikai). There are long pauses in some of the techniques used, which makes it seem less effective, but on the other hand, it also seems more aggressive. Of course, i have no experience with this style of aikido so i really wouldn't know.
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Cool to watch; it looks pretty hardcore. With my ukemi skills, I would end up being broken little pieces of Will all over the stage!!
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I can just imagine the commentary at a sign language convention/seminar: "the signing of certain words was too choppy, the pauses between expressions were most unusual..." Hikisutchie Shihan put it rather bluntly one day: "When you see good aikido, you automatically know what bad aikido is..."
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To Paige, I admit it did sound a little rude, so sorry. It was one of those 'automatic emotional responses' when we are taken by surprise with something we read or view. I dare to think that all
of us here on the internet find surprises like these: I've even given a poetic name to these surprises! I simply refer to them as: "an arrow whistling in the dark." We act, and react, and sometimes we look back and are aghast at what we have done. What we really want to hear is someone telling us "wow, you're lucky!" |
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Again, some of the BEST aikido demonstrations I've seen.
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As was mentioned once before when Russian aikido vids were uploaded--I'd guess they're the same guy--the stuff looks very carefully choreographed, a point I make because we're likely going to see the terms "realistic" creep up with such a...vigorous...style. As to the choppiness, watch Isoyama for choppy, Tada, sometimes, too. |
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Best, Chris |
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aikikai is the affiliation i believe |
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"Aikido" itself is only a little over 60 years old, which seems (to me) to make any "traditional" labels sort of strange. Anyway, the Aikikai is an umbrella organization that covers many different styles of practice. Best, Chris |
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As for the traditional label... it's just the original aikido that O sensei taught, with no sort of variations or anything... what would like me to call it chris?? I'll call it whatever u wish. ...jesus... |
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Best, Chris |
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whatever... i really dont care... no offense ----- edit ----- here is a link to our dojo's website http://www.kyowva-aikikai.freeservers.com/ it even says on there "this is a traditional aikido dojo" That's all i've been taught.. im sorry if it's not up to par |
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Best, Chris |
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Paige ;) |
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wow. lots of arrows whistling in the dark tonight!
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that wasn't a metaphor or anything. ;) |
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Anyway, I thought the demonstrations were quite good, although carefully choreographed (that's not a bad thing). Best, Chris |
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What I REALLY want to know, though, is what Szczepan thought of this video? :D.D :P
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That's why; in this video these guys miss completely the point. Also, they try to simulate 'real' attacks --- and it can be good for somebody who never saw a fight. However, it is very far from reality, so in that sense they cheat public that watch it. From technical point of view, tori looks very stiff, by doing short, sharp movements he seems to believe that he can develop more power.His body doesn't move in the moment of a throw, it means that he does technique only with his hands. This way he can't release a real power. So uke must jump and help him to do a technique. I hope tori will progress in the future, but he will need a real Master. |
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