Re: A question of style
 

Szczepan,

You are, metaphorically, urinating into the prevailing wind. Let people find their own reality. They will anyway and it'll save you heartburn.

Re: A question of style
 

Fine then.

As Greg has just said, let people find their own reality...

... until reality finds them.

Re: A question of style
 

It is very sad that people who do not train anymore come here only to imply that that others are possibly wasting their time and are potentially future victims. If in your mind Aikido does not help build enough martial fortitude for you to defend yourself or your loved ones why burn the calories polluting other peoples pool of tranquility?

Re: A question of style
 

Wondering if you are adressing me, for the cause of me leaving aikido is well known and has nothing to do with the art itself or its value as budo.

What's wrong with burning calories? Anyway, bursting bubbles is not very demanding in this aspect.

Re: A question of style
 

Are you trying to attack me personally instead of discussing a topic?

Re: A question of style
 

He's saying that coming here, throwing the "aikido isn't a self defense platform" into everyones face isn't going to get you anywhere here. It's been argued a thousand times on this forum, as a member since 2002 you should know this. Let it go buddy, no one wants to try to convince someone who has already made up their mind.

Re: A question of style
 

Yes.

Katherine

Re: A question of style
 

I'm impressed. It's always nice to see people in action. It really puts what they say in perspective. I wish I had hip throws that were half as good as yours, and I also really like the recovery on the bungled one.

Re: A question of style
 

Thank you. (We need a "bow" emoticon...)

Hip throws are one area of aikido where strength really does help. Not because you're trying to pick the person up -- ideally, you're not -- but because being confident and stable is absolutely critical.

The one that I bobbled was very frustrating: I made the exact same mistake many times in preparation, and thought I had finally fixed it. :( I'm glad the recovery didn't show that. :D

Katherine

Re: A question of style
 

I'm not attacking you, Stephan.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, though my personal opinion is, at least somewhat, aligned with yours on this topic...I think.

I'm simply telling you that, in my experience, you're wasting your time. I think that there is a huge body of evidence to support that opinion.

Re: A question of style
 

The addition of atemi to any style of Aikido will give you an effective defense.
I suggest learning the basics of boxing and bagua to add with your style of Aikido.

dps

Re: A question of style
 

There are no "basics" in Bagua anymore than there are really any basics in Aikido.

Re: A question of style
 

Don't think there is such a thing as an "addition" operation for martial arts.

Re: A question of style
 

Maybe it´s just me Demitrio, and I´m merely basing my claim on what I have read in your posts from time to time so I might be wrong, but I doesn´t sound like you left aikido altogether ?

Regards
Lars

Re: A question of style
 

Not commenting on the relevancy of it, but atemi is definitely included in aikdo. It is just that some people and teachers drop it from their personal aikido.

Re: A question of style
 

Please explain.

I might be looking at "basics" from a different perspective.

Throwing some meat out there for discussion, here is a link:

http://blog.aikidojournal.com/2012/0...tanley-pranin/

Whether you agree or disagree with his thesis, Stan Pranin is always worth paying attention to. We are blessed to have a historian in aikido.

Re: A question of style
 

I have issues with the no basics in Aikido also.

We have basic drills, exercises, waza. Lots and lots of basics.

Re: A question of style
 

Certainly,

Allow me to explain further. I responded to this post;

"dps The addition of atemi to any style of Aikido will give you an effective defense.
I suggest learning the basics of boxing and bagua to add with your style of Aikido."

Which suggest that adding an art that is very elusive as Baguazhang to ones Aikido might enhance it which is no more true as saying "adding some basic of Aikido will help X style".

What someone might call basics I would call fundamentals. There is a difference (at least in my humble mind) between the ability to attend a weekend kick boxing class and learning to punch a bag after a couple of weeks ( basic but effective) verses anything in Bagua or Aikido. Like Aikido Bagua is considered a hard / soft style that has a lot of moving parts and subtle components.

Please understand that I claim no mastery to any style - my exposure to Bagua is but 2 years under Sifu Wing Lam, but merely sharing my perception.

Perhaps I have inadvertently highjacked this thread which I must apologize to the OP for.