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senshincenter
05-27-2005, 01:27 PM
Does anyone no anything about a man that calls himself “Nodan” and that sends DVDs unsolicited to various dojo? A friend of mine just got such a DVD at his dojo. He was looking for some more context and/or background – since nothing at all came with the DVD.

Looking on the Web I came across only these things:

(a add for the DVD with a video clip) –

http://www.customflix.com/206098

(and this review at the Iaido journal) –

http://ejmas.com/tin/2005tin/tinart_Schweer_0105.html

The “bizarre” part is that, at least in the way things are presented, there is a touch of insanity to it all – only it is combined with some above average skill (if not higher).

Has anyone seen this DVD and/or know who this person really is, etc.?

dmv

jester
05-27-2005, 01:29 PM
Judging from his Gi, I would say he does Hapkido.

jester
05-27-2005, 01:35 PM
His name No Dan, makes me think it's somewhat of a joke though. This can't be for real.

kironin
05-27-2005, 01:56 PM
someone who has seen "Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins" one too many times ?

someone who has WAY too much time on their hands.

it's a lot of trouble to go through for a joke.

It could be a stunt to prove people in martial arts will buy any garbage as long as there is some asian trappings to it no matter how poorly acted.

Mike Sigman
05-27-2005, 02:45 PM
Has anyone seen this DVD and/or know who this person really is, etc.? At best I think he is probably an ikkyy. He is certainly no dan.

Mike

tedehara
05-27-2005, 04:02 PM
...It could be a stunt to prove people in martial arts will buy any garbage as long as there is some asian trappings to it no matter how poorly acted.The title is currently on hold status and cannot be bought.

This looks like the work of Paul Schweer (http://www.aikido-l.org/seminars/2002_us/pics/akiy/AUT_0005.JPG). He's the guy in the blue tee shirt and the one who wrote the Nodan review. His picture fits the general body type and the review is suspiciously too well informed. Also the postscript for Nodan's enlightenment is similar to Paul's style of writing in his AikiWeb columns. There are also discrepencies between the two DVD covers.

senshincenter
05-27-2005, 04:41 PM
Yeah - we got the Remo William's, Master Chun reference as well. lol

Well, rank is all relative. He still does some nice breaks in the video that would normally lead one to not think he's a bit loopy. Who ever knows though - really?

So, Ted, are you saying it looks like Paul Schweer - that Paul is Nodan? Where's the picture of Paul "in the blue shirt"? Do you have any pics of Paul Schweer as Paul Schweer - on the Net somewhere?

The thing is that my friends school isn't even Aikido and/or Japanese related. He's doing a mixture of American sport karate and Korean arts. For what it does, his school is very good (excellent I would say) and very reputable in the area.

How about this question: Has anyone besides Paul and my friend received and/or heard of someone receiving said DVD unsolicited?

a final note: everything in Paul's review is really gained from viewing the DVD - the review doesn't really seem all that well informed (above what is in and on the DVD).

dmv

kironin
05-27-2005, 04:58 PM
How about this question: Has anyone besides Paul and my friend received and/or heard of someone receiving said DVD unsolicited?


I have met Paul at the Aiki Expo and I don't recall him being that scrawny. Granted behind those glasses and fake beard you could hide just about anybody. I don't see Paul paying money to send out unsolicited DVD's for a prank.

Now if Yakov looks like Mongo I would be suspicious.

Regardless, it's all pretty bizarre.
:crazy:

tedehara
05-27-2005, 05:11 PM
...So, Ted, are you saying it looks like Paul Schweer - that Paul is Nodan? Where's the picture of Paul "in the blue shirt"? Do you have any pics of Paul Schweer as Paul Schweer - on the Net somewhere?...a final note: everything in Paul's review is really gained from viewing the DVD - the review doesn't really seem all that well informed (above what is in and on the DVD).

dmv
Click HERE (http://www.aikido-l.org/seminars/2002_us/pics/akiy/AUT_0005.JPG) to see his picture.

Paul doesn't just say Nodan wore thick glasses he was very specific.
He wears big black spectacles, as seen in Bugs Bunny Nips The Nips.He's giving too much specific information. He gives the exact cartoon the thick glasses appear in.

It sounds like an interesting parody. I don't think I would have gone through the trouble to make it though.

senshincenter
05-27-2005, 05:41 PM
Hi Ted,

I'm afraid the link only takes me to a gif file of the aikiweb icon. Is that what it is doing for you? Perhaps you can just send the url instead?

I took that to mean he just knew of that cartoon and of those glasses. When we watched it we recognized those glasses in a similar way (very much a 1940's U.S. caricature of the Japanese).

dmv

tedehara
05-27-2005, 06:29 PM
http://www.aikido-l.org/seminars/2002_us/pics/akiy/AUT_0005.JPG

Thick glases have always been a comic prop. How do you get to a specific reference unless you know it to start?

tedehara
05-27-2005, 06:53 PM
Getting the aikiweb gif also. Have emailed pic via your dojo contact address.

I don't want to waste anymore bandwidth on this. Although I do think this is all hilarious.
:D

senshincenter
05-27-2005, 07:13 PM
Thanks a lot Ted. Yes, it is very funny in a kind of Andy Kaufman sort of way. :-)
d

Brad Darr
05-27-2005, 08:08 PM
I don't know who this guy is or what its all about, but several dojos in Arizona have recieved the nodan DVD in the mail unsolicited. And I agree that it is quite insane but at the same time he has some skill and some valid things to say, but its still insane and what is up with his partner that growls as he swings the knife?

senshincenter
05-27-2005, 08:26 PM
Brad,

Did you happen to note where they all got the DVDs from? Like what was the return zip and/or the postage stamp saying?

d

senshincenter
05-27-2005, 08:41 PM
Looking at Paul's picture, I came across Neil's - is there a resemblance here? ;)

Also, for what it is worth, as a mystery, the guy does some Okinawan/Karate form in the DVD.

tedehara
05-27-2005, 09:19 PM
I just thought of something. This may not be funny at all.
We'll just have to wait and see where this thread leads.

:confused: confused

senshincenter
05-27-2005, 09:35 PM
I just thought of something. This may not be funny at all.
We'll just have to wait and see where this thread leads.

:confused: confused


Now I'm confused by what you mean? :hypno:

Bronson
05-28-2005, 01:56 AM
Now that E-budo is back up you might check over there. I remember a similar thread there at one point.

Bronson

Joe Jutsu
05-28-2005, 02:11 PM
Hello all-

We received a copy of Nodan's video at my dojo. We watched it after our New Year's Eve training session over a couple of glasses of sake. It was truly hilarious, especially when his "uke" with the pirate patch over his eye steps on the mat to help him out. It was really weird how we received the video completely unsolicited, and in fact their was no return address and the postage hadn't even been marked so it couldn't be used again. After some discussion, some of us believe that the impetus behind these videos being distributed around could be some fundamentalist religious group trying to save our souls from the occultist practices we have been divulging in (I mean hey, we are a Ki Society dojo after all). If you've seen it, you'll recall that the recurrent theme throughout the video is that one need not participate in occultist practices to achieve power (as he shows by proving himself against countless, defenseless boards). Anyway, the video was great entertainment, and for what it's worth, I thank whoever sent it to our dojo. I don't think they got any converts, but we will always fondly remember that accent, something between French and Japanese if I remember correctly.

-Joe

kironin
05-28-2005, 06:55 PM
jeez, being in Texas with all the bible thumpers we got here, why haven't I gotten my copy ?

:D

senshincenter
05-28-2005, 07:44 PM
Like I said, my friend's dojo is totally into the American sport-karate scene. It's about as secular as one could get - and as wholesome (if you into the whole discourse on how athletics, etc., makes for a good citizen). Just wondering out loud: Wouldn't a bible-thumper aim a little bit better since there are indeed dojo out there that are into the occult and/or that could be mistaken by such folks as being into the occult?

Mashu
05-28-2005, 07:54 PM
I'd think that sending his DVD to a dojo that was into mysticism or whatever would be a waste as they would be a harder target as they have probably found their "thing" already. Better to go after those who are in the big part of the bell curve. If that is what the Nodan thing is about?

Joe Jutsu
05-28-2005, 10:11 PM
jeez, being in Texas with all the bible thumpers we got here, why haven't I gotten my copy ?

:D
You can always come up to Lawrence for a private screening if you'd like, or I suppose we could bring it along to Vegas, if you are going to be there for Shinichi Tohei's visit. But sorry if you feel left out of the loop, we too have our fair share of thumper's around here (evolution debate, anyone?? :confused: ) but there's plenty of Nodan to go around.

Joe

jester
06-02-2005, 11:18 AM
I saw the video selling on the "International Combat Hapkido Federation" website for $5.

I called them to ask who he was, and the lady didn't know.

donhebert
06-02-2005, 12:09 PM
I received this same inexplicable NoDan tape way up here in Vermont. I have been vainly trying to figure out which one of my weird friends sent this to me (I thought I had it narrowed down, actually). Now I discover, via this thread that this mysterious mailing is a widespread phenomenon.

The tape is a oddball combination of evident skill and goofy presentation. It has become a cult classic in my house where the teenagers gather to watch it periodically and then spend the rest of the day talking in the same unaccountable stage accent. The part where his glasses fly off and he changes from martial arts master to doddering fogey is my favorite. I also have to admit that the accent is fun to do and is useful for annoying my students.

Hagen Seibert
06-02-2005, 12:21 PM
If anyone want´s to get rid of this thing:
Please don´t throw it in the dustbin, send it to me !!!!!!!

senshincenter
06-02-2005, 12:25 PM
Don, what return address was used on your copy?

donhebert
06-02-2005, 12:32 PM
Geez, this was some months ago. However, I believe the return address was somewhere in the Boston, MA area which was how I was pinpointing certain warped acquaintances of mine.

Andrew Rangecroft
06-02-2005, 02:59 PM
if anybody wants to see a clip of how funny this is, see below

http://www.customflix.com/206904

rob_liberti
06-02-2005, 03:48 PM
Does it compare in any way to: http://www.tbotech.com/combat-jkd.htm ?

Rob

Eric Webber
06-02-2005, 06:24 PM
We also received a copy of this DVD in Pa, also with no postmark. I can't remember if there was a return address, it was several months ago. I figured it was some oddball who wanted to gift something to the dojo (we've had other things gifted - books on mysticism, tobacco products and rolling paper [all legal, of course], and some obscenely funny phone calls :freaky: ).

Several of the members have watched it, I couldn't figure out if it was serious or not, the dude with the pirate patch had me on the floor in tearful laughter. Passed it on to others in the dojo, we've all had a good chuckle.

I'm more intrigued who would go to the trouble of getting something through the mail system with no postmark? :confused: ..and why?

senshincenter
06-02-2005, 06:37 PM
Yeah - that is the weird part - parody or not - why mail it all around the country (and trying to sell it at the same time)???

Can I ask this - it seems that schools from every art and style are getting this thing. I'm wondering if you all aren't on some kind of mailing list somewhere. Could it be that your schools are connected to some sort of business type list - like one of those companies that help manage the business end of running a martial arts school/hall, etc.? I know my friend's school is part of NAPMA, is your school part of that or something like that as well?

Eric Webber
06-03-2005, 02:32 PM
Or, somebody could have just opened up the ATM Dojo Directory and started mailing to all 50 States. Still reeks of wackiness. :freaky: Have other folks besides aikido people gotten it in the mail? Maybe he's looking for converts? :confused:

senshincenter
06-03-2005, 02:36 PM
All the folks I knew that received one before I started this thread were non-Aikido folks.

joleta
06-05-2005, 09:29 PM
Our dojo received a copy of the Nodan DVD last week. Plain brown envelope, hand addressed, with a return address a PO Box in Boston. We've been playing it after class at the dojo, every time someone shows up who hasn't seen it, but we still don't know what to think about it. Joke? Serious?

If it's a marketing ploy, I would have thought to send it out with an order form or two, for those who just have to have their own copy. How long has this guy been sending them out?

Barbara Young
Martial Arts Training Service
Fox Valley Aikikai
Naperville, IL
USAF-WF

JJF
06-06-2005, 02:58 AM
I have GOT to see this..... Is it available in PAL ?

Dazzler
06-06-2005, 06:25 AM
Hey..its your birthday...now you know what to ask for!

But don't be greedy...do you want the DVD...or the stick on beard and glasses?

Actually...having looked at your photo...that could be a rather chilling insight to the future if you take you MA a little too seriously! :D

Happy Birthday anyway!

D

Bronson
06-06-2005, 11:13 AM
I want one....come on Nodan send me one :D Just send it in care of me to either dojo listed in my profile.

Bronson

Kevin Leavitt
09-01-2009, 09:35 PM
lol...Nodan is on youtube now apparently and just struck my youtube account. I totally forgot about this guy!

Anyway, a good warning for those that are attempting to learn this internal stuff...you may want to be careful since it CLEARLY comes from the occult.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmJTmYP-6Ms

Ron Tisdale
09-02-2009, 07:13 AM
That still cracks me up!
Best,
Ron

CarrieP
09-02-2009, 11:30 AM
Checked out the YouTube channel.

This is very interesting. Funny, fun, and actually has a message to it (whether or not one agrees with it).

A very creative mind definitely put this together.

Thanks for resurrecting the thread.

Kevin Leavitt
09-02-2009, 11:54 AM
Yea it is interesting for sure!

SmilingNage
09-02-2009, 02:35 PM
Ahh Nodan how I miss thee. We got that video like 5 yrs ago. Its absolutely hysterical. My favorite part is when he punches the makiwara board and his glasses fall off and he turns and says something like ohhhhhhhhh. Its a riot. For weeks after, while teaching I some how always through in the Nodan voice in at one point when someone asked a question.

Phil Van Treese
09-02-2009, 03:41 PM
In my classes we have people of all names but certainly we have "No Dan's" at all.

Dennis Hooker
09-03-2009, 08:46 AM
With no lenses in the cheep sun glasses I would say old Nodan is a ZZ Top reject or a preacher trying to make a point.

Kevin Leavitt
09-03-2009, 10:24 AM
I like the fact that unlike many in martial arts, at least he has a endstate or a point to his training! regardless of what that point might be!

yellahh
08-01-2010, 11:53 AM
nodankarate is shaun osborne. he does a lot of charity work for freemasonry and is a very good man. heres some pictures.

http://s930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/nodankarate/