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Old 04-27-2003, 01:01 AM   #1
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AikiWeb Poll for the week of April 27, 2003:

Do you think your aikido dojo would survive for a year if its chief instructor passed away tomorrow?
  • I don't do aikido
  • Yes
  • No
Here are the current results.
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Old 04-27-2003, 01:58 AM   #2
Dojo: Independent
Location: Maracaibo/Zulia
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Posts: 149
Yes , certainly..

Kind of a moral duty , at least for me , to see it happen.

Plus KI!

"Perfection is a Process"
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Old 04-27-2003, 03:30 AM   #3
mike lee
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 646
still in your heart

Just put his picture up next to O-Sensei and imagine that he's still there instructing you.
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Old 04-27-2003, 03:54 AM   #4
Dojo: Bulungan
Location: Jakarta
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3
I think, there's no problem. 'cause there still much intructur can teach/instructing us.
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Old 04-27-2003, 04:07 AM   #5
Join Date: Sep 2001
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Wow, running out of polls, are we.
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Old 04-27-2003, 04:07 AM   #6
Hanna B
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 647
No way! But this is a special case. It is my teacher's "experiment dojo" with small classes practising at odd hours. Nobody else teaches there. If he's away on holiday on teaching a seminar, there's no class... He also has a big dojo together with a few other teachers. That one would survive without him.
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Old 04-27-2003, 07:48 AM   #7
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Rather a drastic question, isn't it?
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Old 04-27-2003, 10:36 AM   #8
Greg Jennings
Dojo: WPAFB JiuJitsu Group
Location: Springboro, OH
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,110
Our whole dojo system is built around making the dojo self sustaining.

Best Regards,

Greg Jennings
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Old 04-27-2003, 11:05 AM   #9
Dojo: Kenshinkai Yoshinkan Aikido
Location: Portsmouth
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 450

Sadly this happened to us just over three years ago and we are still here. It knocked us for six, of course!

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Old 04-27-2003, 03:52 PM   #10
Andrew Wilson
Dojo: jiyushikan
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 31
This is a frightening question... To consider what happens when the inevitable happens... at this point in my life I am only concerned out of getting the most out of the moments I do have with my sensei... and if he does pass away, then the best I can do is hope that the dojo would sustain itself.

I know I will keep training, and I hope I am not the only one. I will just keep going to class in the meantime.

"The wise man, after learning something new, is afraid to learn anything more until he has put his first lesson into practice." - Tzu Lu
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Old 04-27-2003, 04:28 PM   #11
Hanna B
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Everyone who answers in the thread says "yes", but 15 % (so far) vote "no". I would guess that these are the ones who practise in a rather small dojo, where there are not several senior students who could take over.
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Old 04-27-2003, 06:20 PM   #12
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Dojo: Jiyushinkan
Location: Monroe, Washington
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Most assuredly. There would be a job opening though for a new "court jester."

Chuck Clark
Jiyushinkai Aikibudo
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Old 04-28-2003, 12:32 AM   #13
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Location: Battle Creek & Kalamazoo, MI
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I think it would probably survive but in a very different incarnation.

I've always thought that the dojo (or style) should have a definite plan laid out in case this should happen. Like having a will for you family.

I think too often people don't want to think about it and it never gets dealt with when we are of healthy mind and body and able to make rational decisions.


"A pacifist is not really a pacifist if he is unable to make a choice between violence and non-violence. A true pacifist is able to kill or maim in the blink of an eye, but at the moment of impending destruction of the enemy he chooses non-violence."
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Old 04-28-2003, 02:24 AM   #14
Dojo: Aarhus Shobukan
Location: Denmark
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 21

I agree with "the plan" (sounds like a movie). YOu can always change the plan, but it helps everbody to know in which direction to move/work.

Concerning the quesiton asked; no, the dojo will stand, it just might change direction.

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Old 04-28-2003, 03:04 AM   #15
Dojo: Seigi Dojo
Location: Jakarta
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 247
I hope this won't happen. at least for the time being.
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Old 04-28-2003, 05:04 AM   #16
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Dojo: University of Ulster, Coleriane
Location: Northern Ireland
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 1,654
This is a very pertinant question for me. Not that I'm going to die, but because I'm a research scientist and therefore tend to have short term contracts. If I have to leave here the next grade down is a 4th kyu since the club has not been running long. The nearest club is 1 1/2 hrs away.


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Old 04-28-2003, 09:48 AM   #17
Location: Chicago, IL
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Posts: 432
Mine did. It's been four years now.

Robert Cronin
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Old 04-28-2003, 10:02 AM   #18
Larry Feldman
Dojo: Atlanta School of Aikido
Location: Atlanta, GA
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 341
I think it would stop. Working on getting my Ikkyu to Shodan, which would help the survival rate.
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Old 04-28-2003, 10:26 AM   #19
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C.E. Clark (Chuck Clark) wrote:
Most assuredly. There would be a job opening though for a new "court jester."
Perhaps, but I've heard some good reports about a certain seminar at the Yobushin Dojo near Bloomington, Indiana.

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