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Old 02-02-2006, 03:02 AM   #1
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Grr! arguments on aikiweb

I feel it is extremely important that heated arguments are an important part of free expression on aikiweb. Does any moron disagree with me?

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Old 02-02-2006, 03:12 AM   #2
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I don't disagree in anyway in what you said. However, we MUST draw the line at bigotry of any kind.

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Old 02-02-2006, 03:18 AM   #3
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what the heck are you talking about you pencil neck geek... there is no such thing as 'heated argument' (to use your idiotic phrase) in aikido... go tell your sensei not to drop you on your head so much since it has further impaired your already limited mental functions... and if you don't agree with that you can "kiss me blarney stone"... and you can thank your lucky charms i'm not in ireland or i'd show you a thing or two...

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Old 02-02-2006, 03:22 AM   #4
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Ah, you would say that!

Only joking. To briefly divert from my attempt at humour, this maybe has philosophical relevance for the stuff going on in the news relating to a Danish newspaper showing humorous pictures of Mohammed (not that I've seen them). What is bigotry, and what is useful comment? Does it relate more to the underlying intention than to the action or words?

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Old 02-02-2006, 03:31 AM   #5
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Re: arguments on aikiweb

P.S. Edwin
- my sensei is far bigger than yours and is gonna kick his ass, take over your dojo, and then make you sweep the floor for 12 years telling you it's the only way to true enlightenment in aikido. What's more I'm going to report you to the peace commision for racial comments (though I doubt I'll get too far, 'cos I'm English, and as you must know being a stupid Yank - you are not allowed to make racist comments about 'minorities' but you can insult perceivd 'majorities' to your hearts content.)

P.S. I'm coming over to Maryland this year but that doesn't mean I'll be wanting to see one thing of yours, let alone two. (to be sure...)

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Old 02-02-2006, 03:38 AM   #6
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To briefly divert from my attempt at humour, this maybe has philosophical relevance for the stuff going on in the news relating to a Danish newspaper showing humorous pictures of Mohammed (not that I've seen them).
Link to the pictures, for those who wish to see them. To be honest, they are not offensive at all. It's just humour -- and not terribly funny at that. Do (not?) click here.

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What is bigotry, and what is useful comment? Does it relate more to the underlying intention than to the action or words?
As soon as anyone/anything tells you to either fear or hate something, then you will get bigotry. If you add a dash of "we're better because..." you are sure to get fanatics.

Eg: <bigotry>There is no competition in Aikido and anyone who does competition cannot do real Aikido.</bigotry>
Or
<opinion>In my understanding of Aikido and for myself, I do like the idea of competition. </opinion>

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Old 02-02-2006, 03:43 AM   #7
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Where is Mr Smith? He will 'add' volumes to this discussion!

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Old 02-02-2006, 03:49 AM   #8
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i think that when one is offended by someone else's comments you must decide why it offends you... if it is true then you must understand this... if it is false you should ignore it...

ps Ian, just what i thought 'someone like you' would say... and your sensei swept my sensei's floors for twelve years and didn't get close to enlightenment...

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Old 02-02-2006, 03:50 AM   #9
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P.S. Edwin
- my sensei is far bigger than yours and is gonna kick his ass, take over your dojo, and then make you sweep the floor for 12 years telling you it's the only way to true enlightenment in aikido. What's more I'm going to report you to the peace commision for racial comments (though I doubt I'll get too far, 'cos I'm English, and as you must know being a stupid Yank - you are not allowed to make racist comments about 'minorities' but you can insult perceivd 'majorities' to your hearts content.)

P.S. I'm coming over to Maryland this year but that doesn't mean I'll be wanting to see one thing of yours, let alone two. (to be sure...)

P.P.S.
Ian, this is not an offence, but obviously you did not understand anything about aikido.

While there are some good big sensei, size is not qualifying to kick someones ass. Even thinking this is a fault, writing this is BIGotry.Your sensei may come to mine, who is very small and he not only is an excellent aikidoka, but applies aiki principles (highly effective atemi, like grabbing your groins) and he will give your sensei a very good lesson, he probably never recovers from.

And do not say bad things about Yanks (though I have to admit most are true). As an Englishman in the remaining occupied part of EIRE, you better shut up.


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Old 02-02-2006, 03:50 AM   #10
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Re: arguments on aikiweb

I never get heated in aikiweb arguments as I always realise that the fool arguing with me is no more than the skidmark on the underpants of humanity, as evinced by the fact that they're arguing with me in the first place. If they don't realise this fact, it's obvious that they are stupid as well as ill-informed and ugly (an obvious extrapolation of the facts).

Aikiweb is merely a venue where I can entertain myself by occasionally uplifting your poor little lives with my gems of wisdom, so arguments are therefore futile and Ian has got it totally wrong as usual. As for Yann's rather puerile attempt to play the shodothug card yet again, well we all like to play in the sandbox when young (competition), but most of us grow out of it (smiles condescendingly in Yann's direction).

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Old 02-02-2006, 06:26 AM   #11
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Thanks for putting a link in there Yann. I thought they were a bit offensive (esp. given the polarisation that certain christian and muslim fundamentalists seem to be trying to achieve), and tend to suggest a slur against Islam as a faith. But to be honest, just as Christianity could be associated with Capatilism, Islam tends to have associations with repression (at least through the media we get). I think if an Iranian newspaper had done a cartoon of Jesus throwing Bush and his comrades out of the temple, or Jesus running on water across the Arabian Gulf towards Iraq with a rocket launcher on his shoulder, there would have been uproar from secular christians.

Personally I feel religious groups are given far too much power in politics. Someone with a sound philosophical and humanist suggestion (even if they've researched social studies) has less say than the local bishop. Many religions are just 'clubs' that allow you to have more power as a group. There are many things in the news I find offensive (mostly the way that news is delivered to us as if we are idiots), but there's not much I can do about it!

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Old 02-02-2006, 06:30 AM   #12
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P.S. I should have considered that this would be an insult-a-thon directed towards me. Never mind, at least I can take it...


...unlike you lot.


P.P.S. Dirk, when you say 'remaining' occupied area of Eire; are you suggesting that it won't remain like that much longer? I can see we're getting on dangerous ground! Thank goodness for NATO!

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Old 02-02-2006, 08:51 AM   #13
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Arguements? Y'all don't know what an 'arguement' is...

{looks around for baseball bat}

WHACK!


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Old 02-02-2006, 10:15 AM   #14
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I am elite. That means I am better than you all, the only reason I associate with people on here is to laugh at them and their attempts to get closer to being someone half as cool as myself. Lolz @ j00 @11 !!!

They're all screaming about the rock n roll, but I would say that it's getting old. - REFUSED.
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:15 AM   #15
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Three exclamation marks and uses "leet speak" - need I say more?
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Old 02-02-2006, 06:12 PM   #16
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the argument sketch
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Old 02-03-2006, 03:00 AM   #17
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Old 02-03-2006, 03:35 AM   #18
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P.S. I should have considered that this would be an insult-a-thon directed towards me. Never mind, at least I can take it...


...unlike you lot.


P.P.S. Dirk, when you say 'remaining' occupied area of Eire; are you suggesting that it won't remain like that much longer? I can see we're getting on dangerous ground! Thank goodness for NATO!
First there are no insults from my side. I am just telling the truth and giving some tips for human relationships.

Nato did not help any side in Cyprus, they would not help you either.
But you should thank for Georgie not being catholic and the greater oil fields lying in the North Sea. Otherwise he would show, what his view of democracy looks like.

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Old 02-03-2006, 06:55 AM   #19
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'Three exclamation marks and uses "leet speak" - need I say more?'

1 5@1d 1 w@5 133t!

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Old 02-07-2006, 06:16 AM   #20
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hey ,,, im a lover not a fighter

Dance your cares away .... worry for another day ... let the music play .... down in fraggle rock!

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Old 02-07-2006, 09:45 AM   #21
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nuff said!
No it isn't

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Old 02-07-2006, 11:07 AM   #22
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This whole thread is bullshit!

And it's not getting a smiley either....

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No it isn't
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Old 02-12-2006, 07:29 AM   #24
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1 w1LL srs1y p@y U 2 5hut teh f*ck up!

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I think you guys are all charming.

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