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Old 01-09-2006, 06:02 PM   #1
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Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

Whats the name of that atemi where it looks like an uppercut? I saw a video on the net where it looked like he was uppercutting peope.
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Old 01-09-2006, 08:42 PM   #2
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

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Whats the name of that atemi where it looks like an uppercut? I saw a video on the net where it looked like he was uppercutting peope.
A variation of Shomen tsuki?

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Old 01-09-2006, 09:23 PM   #3
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

Aikicut???
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Old 01-09-2006, 09:53 PM   #4
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

An uppercut? Why? Is there a need to "aiki-fy" things?

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Old 01-09-2006, 10:43 PM   #5
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

Atemi? I don't think there are specific names used in aikido for various atemi. Well, not at least to my knowledge.

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Old 01-09-2006, 10:50 PM   #6
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

It was weird it was just like an uppercut but he used an open palm.
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Old 01-09-2006, 11:23 PM   #7
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

I think shomen tsuki usually refers to a jodan level oi zuki or gyaku zuki. A boxer's uppercut is more roundhouse like and rises thus i would call it a
Age mawashi uchi ni shomen or maybe
Age mawashi tsuki Jodan.

Then again this is my construction, and since i neither speak japanese nor practice aikido (yet ).

Hopefully one of the senior aikidoka here can correct me.

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Old 01-09-2006, 11:28 PM   #8
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

Open palm you say?
Perhaps he was doing a pie in the face style irimi nage?

Regardless the technique of using a palm heel uppercut strike to face is probably
age teisho uchi ni shomen
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Old 01-09-2006, 11:31 PM   #9
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

A variation on shomen-ate (front strike)

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Old 01-09-2006, 11:47 PM   #10
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Thanks for saying it in my language Peter. I have no idea what most of these guys are saying.
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Old 01-10-2006, 12:23 AM   #11
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

Agu-tsuki (sp?)
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Old 01-10-2006, 02:22 AM   #12
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Dave.

That's it. His uppercut was called Dave.

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Thanks for saying it in my language Peter. I have no idea what most of these guys are saying.
You ask for the name of move a Japanese guy did in a Japanese martial art, and you don't want it in Japanese? Riiight. It's Dave the Uppercut to you then

If you really want to know, different branches of aiki call it different things anyway. Peter is right. As is Age-uchi (Upwards/rising Strike). Age-tsuki (Upwards/rising thrust) may also be correct but I've never heeard it.
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Old 01-10-2006, 02:27 AM   #13
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Striking with palm?

Age-shote-uchi, perhaps?
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Old 01-10-2006, 07:36 AM   #14
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

My old dojo did a technique called Ago-tsuki Nage. Chin strike throw. It sounds kind of like what your talking about. Nasty technique, but effective. Let's just say you have to be on top of your Ukemi, or you get nasty whip lash.

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Old 01-10-2006, 09:26 AM   #15
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

I think we call it tsukiage.
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Old 01-10-2006, 09:38 AM   #16
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

Ago tsuki is just a (rough) type of irimi nage, more descriptive though.

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Old 01-10-2006, 10:20 AM   #17
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

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Ago tsuki is just a (rough) type of irimi nage, more descriptive though.
Now I think about it, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

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Old 01-10-2006, 01:13 PM   #18
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

In Yoshinkan I believe it's called irimi zuki.
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Old 01-10-2006, 03:06 PM   #19
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

Oops I should have put this in the techniques forum.
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Old 01-10-2006, 05:10 PM   #20
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

My sensei refers to any atemi going in an upward or downward motion to be a shomen. If it comes around from the side it is yokomen, if its just a general punch it is tsuki. That is how i was taught.
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Old 01-20-2006, 04:33 AM   #21
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

I think you are refering to (not sure on the spelling here) an iriminski or irimski. kind of like a very direct iriminage where the chin is ploughed up and then down again with palm of the hand. hurts A LOT if you don't anticipate it! prelude to a neck breaking technique

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Old 02-02-2006, 09:32 AM   #22
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

James,

You don't mention whether he is using a fist or open hand, but it could be that what you are referring to is O-Sensei's shomen uchi, which he initiates before uke has time to attack. This is an open-handed (tegatana) upward moving strike towards uke's face. You can see him doing this often in many of the jiyu waza that are to be seen on film.

By the way, when grabbed in Ryokata dori, the atemi used here is an uppercut, since an atemi going straight towards uke's face is blocked by the one arm.

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Old 02-26-2006, 08:53 AM   #23
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?

Its a teisho - heel of palm strike and is used a lot in aiki jutsu
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Old 02-26-2006, 09:44 PM   #24
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Its from the Hiden Mokuroku of Daito ryu-where- all of the jujutsu techniques of Aikido and his internal skills came from. Its also in the scrolls he awarded to Mochizuki, Shioda, Shirata, on and on. You know.....his students. Those would be the Daito ryu Hiden Mokuroku scrolls he was awarding in the 1930's and signed, in the only art he knew to teach; Daito ryu.
It was the only art he studied for any length of time.

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Old 02-27-2006, 07:25 AM   #25
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I think it is called:

The strike of thunder
From way down under
rising quickly
makes uke feel sickly
Knock em on their butt
Super Incredible upper cut.

At least that's what Daryl Dawkins called it....
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