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01-09-2006, 05:02 PM
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Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
Whats the name of that atemi where it looks like an uppercut? I saw a video on the net where it looked like he was uppercutting peope.
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01-09-2006, 07:42 PM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
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James Smith wrote:
Whats the name of that atemi where it looks like an uppercut? I saw a video on the net where it looked like he was uppercutting peope.
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A variation of Shomen tsuki?
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SHOMEN-ATE (TM), the solution to 90% of aikido and life's problems.
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01-09-2006, 08:23 PM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
Aikicut???
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01-09-2006, 08:53 PM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
An uppercut? Why? Is there a need to "aiki-fy" things?
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01-09-2006, 09:43 PM
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Dojo: Sand Drift Aikikai, Cocoa Florida
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
Atemi? I don't think there are specific names used in aikido for various atemi. Well, not at least to my knowledge.
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01-09-2006, 09:50 PM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
It was weird it was just like an uppercut but he used an open palm.
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01-09-2006, 10:23 PM
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Dojo: New England Aikikai
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
I think shomen tsuki usually refers to a jodan level oi zuki or gyaku zuki. A boxer's uppercut is more roundhouse like and rises thus i would call it a
Age mawashi uchi ni shomen or maybe
Age mawashi tsuki Jodan.
Then again this is my construction, and since i neither speak japanese nor practice aikido ( yet ).
Hopefully one of the senior aikidoka here can correct me.
Last edited by Sreyan : 01-09-2006 at 10:32 PM.
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01-09-2006, 10:28 PM
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Dojo: New England Aikikai
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
Open palm you say?
Perhaps he was doing a pie in the face style irimi nage?
Regardless the technique of using a palm heel uppercut strike to face is probably
age teisho uchi ni shomen
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01-09-2006, 10:31 PM
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Dojo: Shodokan Honbu (Osaka)
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
A variation on shomen-ate (front strike)
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01-09-2006, 10:47 PM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
Thanks for saying it in my language Peter. I have no idea what most of these guys are saying.
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01-09-2006, 11:23 PM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
Agu-tsuki (sp?)
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01-10-2006, 01:22 AM
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Dojo: Kaminari Shooto Dojo
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Dave.
That's it. His uppercut was called Dave.
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Thanks for saying it in my language Peter. I have no idea what most of these guys are saying.
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You ask for the name of move a Japanese guy did in a Japanese martial art, and you don't want it in Japanese? Riiight. It's Dave the Uppercut to you then
If you really want to know, different branches of aiki call it different things anyway. Peter is right. As is Age-uchi (Upwards/rising Strike). Age-tsuki (Upwards/rising thrust) may also be correct but I've never heeard it.
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01-10-2006, 01:27 AM
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Dojo: Slough Aikikai
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
Striking with palm?
Age-shote-uchi, perhaps?
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01-10-2006, 06:36 AM
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Dojo: Aiki Goshin Dojo
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
My old dojo did a technique called Ago-tsuki Nage. Chin strike throw. It sounds kind of like what your talking about. Nasty technique, but effective. Let's just say you have to be on top of your Ukemi, or you get nasty whip lash.
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Derek Gaudet
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01-10-2006, 08:26 AM
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Dojo: Martha's Vineyard Aikido Club
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
I think we call it tsukiage.
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01-10-2006, 08:38 AM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
Ago tsuki is just a (rough) type of irimi nage, more descriptive though.
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01-10-2006, 09:20 AM
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Dojo: Aiki Goshin Dojo
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
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Ago tsuki is just a (rough) type of irimi nage, more descriptive though.
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Now I think about it, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
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Derek Gaudet
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01-10-2006, 12:13 PM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
In Yoshinkan I believe it's called irimi zuki.
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01-10-2006, 02:06 PM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
Oops I should have put this in the techniques forum.
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01-10-2006, 04:10 PM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
My sensei refers to any atemi going in an upward or downward motion to be a shomen. If it comes around from the side it is yokomen, if its just a general punch it is tsuki. That is how i was taught.
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01-20-2006, 03:33 AM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
Last edited by Lee Mulgrew : 01-20-2006 at 03:36 AM.
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02-02-2006, 08:32 AM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
James,
You don't mention whether he is using a fist or open hand, but it could be that what you are referring to is O-Sensei's shomen uchi, which he initiates before uke has time to attack. This is an open-handed (tegatana) upward moving strike towards uke's face. You can see him doing this often in many of the jiyu waza that are to be seen on film.
By the way, when grabbed in Ryokata dori, the atemi used here is an uppercut, since an atemi going straight towards uke's face is blocked by the one arm.
In Aiki,
Ethan Weisgard
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02-26-2006, 07:53 AM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
Its a teisho - heel of palm strike and is used a lot in aiki jutsu
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02-26-2006, 08:44 PM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
Its from the Hiden Mokuroku of Daito ryu-where- all of the jujutsu techniques of Aikido and his internal skills came from. Its also in the scrolls he awarded to Mochizuki, Shioda, Shirata, on and on. You know.....his students. Those would be the Daito ryu Hiden Mokuroku scrolls he was awarding in the 1930's and signed, in the only art he knew to teach; Daito ryu.
It was the only art he studied for any length of time.
Cheers
Dan
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02-27-2006, 06:25 AM
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Re: Whats the Name of Ueshiba's uppercut?
I think it is called:
The strike of thunder
From way down under
rising quickly
makes uke feel sickly
Knock em on their butt
Super Incredible upper cut.
At least that's what Daryl Dawkins called it....
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