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Old 08-25-2005, 01:58 AM   #26
Mark Uttech
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Re: learning 2 arts at the same time

hallo, the thing about the different subjects in high school is actually a weak argument, because high school was still one school. In gassho
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:31 AM   #27
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Re: learning 2 arts at the same time

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hallo, the thing about the different subjects in high school is actually a weak argument, because high school was still one school. In gassho
And, to me this parallels using as examples both Morihei Ueshiba and Dan Inosanto. These two are often brought up as examples of crosstrainers. Post Omoto Kyo, Morihei considered any martial art he practiced to be an expression of his Omoto Kyo, meaning Aikido. With Mr. Inosanto, the same can probably be said about him post Bruce Lee. It seems to me that he studies new martial arts with a Jeet Kune Do eye. Thus, even though he is learning about a new art, he is doing JKD.

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Old 08-25-2005, 10:21 AM   #28
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Re: learning 2 arts at the same time

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hallo, the thing about the different subjects in high school is actually a weak argument, because high school was still one school. In gassho
So? I'm learning Kali, Serak, Aikido, and Tai Chi at one school: http://www.fulllifefitness.baka.com/

Karate is the only thing at a different locale.
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Old 08-25-2005, 10:24 AM   #29
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Re: learning 2 arts at the same time

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And, to me this parallels using as examples both Morihei Ueshiba and Dan Inosanto ..... With Mr. Inosanto, the same can probably be said about him post Bruce Lee. It seems to me that he studies new martial arts with a Jeet Kune Do eye. Thus, even though he is learning about a new art, he is doing JKD.

Charles
Maybe, but he still advocates people going out and crosstraining. My Kali instructor, whose instructorship is in LaCoste Inosanto Kali, has told me he's happy with everything I'm doing.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:49 PM   #30
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Re: learning 2 arts at the same time

even japanese and american kindergarten are are very different. we are impressed always, by the first things we go into. There is actually nothing wrong with using aikido to improve your aikido.
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Old 08-25-2005, 03:49 PM   #31
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Re: learning 2 arts at the same time

I guess we need to define what type of training one wants to do. Some people train in various arts to combine them. They want a variety of arts to draw from depending on their situation. Others are purist who believe that arts should not be combined. They think once you combine it with another art it becomes something different entirely.
I'm sure there are other opinions and points of view on the subject, but these are the two I've heard the most.
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Old 08-27-2005, 10:26 AM   #32
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Re: learning 2 arts at the same time

There were alot of great responses. I tend to gravitate toward the idea that one should not cross train another MA while studying aikido. Yoga is not a MA and therefore something like that is ok.

The ideology and methodolgy meaning the principles and they way aikidoka do things is vastly different and in my opinioin, superior to that of many MAs out there.

In addition, when subjecting yoursefl to other MAs, you are actively submitting yourself to the syndrome of "Master of None". What I mean is, you may know something about various arts but to realistically expect yourself to master any giving one of them is unlikely.

Try sticking to Aikido. Be patient and really submerge yourself. If you are one in spirit with the principles of aikido, you will find no need for another art.
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