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Old 07-27-2005, 02:34 AM   #1
tiyler_durden
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Lightbulb Intent

Hey All,

I recently came uppon a very exiting realisation: Intent.
I know that this will help and guide my Aikido on a way that I would liek and would like to ask the board if any one knows ways to build nad cultivate "Intent".

My Sensei has amazing intent and I know this steers his AIkido!

I would like to ask if any of you know how or have any pointers on cultiviating or makeing strong intent?

Can any one help?

Terry

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Old 07-27-2005, 02:47 AM   #2
Nick Simpson
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Re: Intent

I dont know any way to cultivate intent, rather than to believe you are going to do something and then to do it. I trained with an instructor a while ago who had very good aikido but I personally really disliked all of the dojo's concepts and the way that they practised. The one thing that i took from it though was an excellent point he made. 'Align your intent through your angles of attack'.

Gave me plenty of food for thought and is something i now think about the majority of the time when practising. So I suppose it was worth the trip afterall

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Old 07-27-2005, 07:02 AM   #3
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Re: Intent

Westerners tend to corrupt what "intent", "yi", "will", etc., mean and apply it to several other things (like "focus your mind on the other side of the target" and stuff like that). It normally means to form kokyu strength where you want it, in the correct usage.

FWIW

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Old 07-29-2005, 10:26 PM   #4
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Re: Intent

"Intent," for me, is like extending you ki deliberately, and willingly. Ueshiba said something like, "when you are confronted by an attacker you should invite him in quickly, and then Quickly send him on his way." You should check out the "Extending your ki," thread, posted by David Lee.

Interesting thread!
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Old 07-30-2005, 05:28 AM   #5
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Re: Intent

Intent = intent = what are you up to?
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:44 AM   #6
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Re: Intent

I've always likened it to being decisive and not pussy-footing around. Put everything into your movement, and the intent will be clear.

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Old 07-30-2005, 07:57 AM   #7
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Re: Intent

"Intent", to me, means: to have a very precise idea of what you're going to do and doing it without any indecision or fear of failure, being relaxed in the form of that idea and it's actualization through physical movement no matter how small/large or soft/hard. Total focused commitment with strong zanshin throughout. Eventually this intent is actualized with no lag time or slackness, no "empty places", no thought of self or action. Often labeled "ki, ken, tai ichi", "muga mushin" and such...

Trying to articulate everything that's going on is difficult, it has to become poetic instead of mechanic in understanding. There are many "tools" and "strategies" that can operate within this "intent" to accomplish what I call different "job orders". (too many words already!)

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Old 07-30-2005, 09:13 AM   #8
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Re: Intent

I've never seen a bona fide use of "intent" in a description that means anything other than the mental forming of kokyu/jin, although sometimes the general term "ki/qi" is used when the more specific word would be kokyu or jin. If you hit with your "intent", it's another way of saying you have formed and are using kokyu/jin as the basic power for your hit, push, whatever. If you read something like "He hit the Dim Mak point with his ki", it really means that you're using the same mental intent to use kokyu power to hit a point.

The western ideas of "intending to hit", "strong intention", "put your intent on the other side of the target", etc., don't really apply to these uses of intent, but a lot of westerners use those ideas when they translate "intent". The problem is compounded by otherwise capable translators who themselves don't understand how to use ki and kokyu, so their translations using "intent" in the above-mentioned ways simply reflect what they know or don't know.

At some point in time, as more information becomes available, I think we'll get around a lot of the personalized translations of so many terms.

FWIW

Mike
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Old 08-13-2005, 11:36 PM   #9
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Re: Intent

To me, intent is doing. If you don't do it, then there is no intent, no goal. Want to move there? Do it. Want to quit smoking? Do it. Want to buy the house? Do it. Anything else is a "hope" or "try". (PS. No flames please, it's how I quit smoking.)

Sometimes it doesn't end up the way you want it, but that's when your aikido training will kick in, helping you to remember to stay flexible.

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Old 08-14-2005, 03:25 PM   #10
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Re: Intent

In ukemi I have intent. As nage, I really work on having no agenda and once we make a good connection, then I think the kokyu things that Mike is talking about resonate with me at that point. Interesting distinction between the roles (to me anyway!).

Rob
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