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Old 07-10-2006, 03:26 PM   #351
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Re: Aikido minus mysticism: a step forward

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James Davis, Jr. wrote:
Sorry, Paige. I have to agree with you on that one.

In vocal biting, scratching, and kicking, though, you excell.



Please don't shoot.
*Bang!*

next thread: Aikido vs Guns

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Old 07-10-2006, 05:19 PM   #352
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Re: Aikido minus mysticism: a step forward

Whats vocal aikido?

If you're hungry, keep moving.
If you're tired, keep moving.
If you value you're life, keep moving.

You don't own what you can't defend
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:18 AM   #353
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Re: Aikido minus mysticism: a step forward

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Whats vocal aikido?
i guess it's when someone "attacks" you vocally, and you harmonise with it.

still trying to get it, man. i'm trying to vocal "aikido" my girlfriend especially when she's in "one of those moods" (heh heh), y'know? It's hard when your natural instinct is to strike/lash out in defence, rather than move off the line.

but i hope in time i can learn to circumvent my natural instinct (the need to attack in in a supposed fight/flee situation )and turn it into something else, something less aggresive, something more...."mystical".
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:52 AM   #354
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Re: Aikido minus mysticism: a step forward

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...especially when she's in "one of those moods" (heh heh), y'know? It's hard when your natural instinct is to strike/lash out in defence, rather than move off the line.

but i hope in time i can learn to circumvent my natural instinct (the need to attack in in a supposed fight/flee situation )and turn it into something else, something less aggresive, something more...."mystical".
When in situation as described above, say the mantra " yes dear" several times.
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:01 PM   #355
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Re: Aikido minus mysticism: a step forward

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When in situation as described above, say the mantra " yes dear" several times.
Doesn't work.

My wife knows I don't mean it.

But we work it out.

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Old 09-19-2006, 11:14 PM   #356
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Re: Aikido minus mysticism: a step forward

Let me translate:

RED BEETLE:
Hey Aikido people! I'm involved in Judo and jujitsu etc., and I really get a kick out of the physical and technical aspect of martial arts. I'm curious about what else there is to it, and would like to learn more about Aikido, but I don't have the maturity to come onto a message board and ask friendly questions.

Instead, I'm going to define a very limited explanation of Aikido, its purpose, and function, and challenge all of you to 'throw me' from my position. As each of you tries to loosen my close-minded grip on the situation, I will clench even tighter, shouting, "no it's not!" "see, it's coercion! ha, I win!"

WAYNE:
That's nice RED BEETLE. You're right about EVERYTHING, now, tell us, why are you frustrated by concepts such as ki, bowing, and meditation? What is the event in your life that made you turn against these things? Or perhaps, tell us more about your philosophy, and why you feel a need to block and reject these.



tada! I just performed Aikido.
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Old 10-06-2006, 09:15 PM   #357
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Re: Aikido minus mysticism: a step forward

"Maybe Morihei Uyeshiba should have joined an Amish community instead of the religious school of Omoto-kyo."

I'm late to this dance, but the fact is that in many ways, O Sensei did.

The Amish are farmers. . . O Sensei retired to farm.

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Old 10-06-2006, 10:53 PM   #358
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That might have been fortuitous for the Amish - preventing the awful tragedy of last week. Very practical body useage is a key survival skill after all, no matter how diluted this sensibility has become in many members of modern society. Humans can "harm at a distance", luckily for us, since we are so weak, but without body skills we would not be able to protect our closest distances very well.
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Old 10-10-2006, 11:43 AM   #359
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Re: Aikido minus mysticism: a step forward

Greetings,
This thread has really been enjoyable for many reasons. It has allowed me to reflect about the first days of training in Judo. It was required that we learn the Japanese terminology, bow, and listen to the sensei about how to behave on and off the mat. This training helped teach me how important it is to respect what we are doing and who we are doing it with. It allowed me to open my mind and realize that just because I didn't understand something, that there was value to what I didn't understand.It is easy to chalk up what we don't understand as being some "mystical" concept not worth our time or efforts. I have found that respecting others and respecting what we do has actually been beneficial in allowing me the frame of mind needed to acquire the most from my training. I would never think of disrespecting my Aikido teachers and fellow students by claiming that the things I don't grasp are mystical bull that are best left out of practice. I would also never be proud to have been thrown out of a dojo for being disrespectful. I look forward to many more years of practicing, knowing that there is a lifetime of things to learn. Grateful for the things I have learned and respectful of the people who have helped me get here, I try to teach my students the formalities, to help them get the most out of their journey. They should be able to go anywhere and not offend someone accidentally or embarrass themselves. Learning the names of the techniques will give them a universal background for understanding what is being taught all around the world. An open mind will allow us all to discover the things that we are trying to find.My early days in Judo and Aikido were filled with questions about the validity of the things I was being shown. The patience and respect that were shown helped me find answers to these questions and have kept me involved ever since. It is with this respect that I hope we can all gain a better understanding of each other and attain a better understanding of Aikido.
Best Regards
Tom Fish
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