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Old 06-28-2005, 10:43 AM   #26
AikiAndy
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Re: Extending Ki.

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MIke,

It seems to be very easy to produce these 'magnetic feelings' by simply standing in a relaxed stance with the spine straight and concentrating the breathing on the dan tien or hara area and moving your hands slowly together and apart. (Or by imagining 'extending ki')

Regarding the 'magnetic feelings' - what's your take on what they are?

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Bryan

This reminds me of being a young child and finding two relatively smooth stones on the ground. Putting one in each hand and rubbing them together for a couple minutes and then wondering how the stones became magnetized to each other.
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Old 06-29-2005, 11:49 AM   #27
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Question Re: Extending Ki.

I have a question... (besides Adrenalin) the concept of ki isn't otherwise present in the west. I play tennis. I can play tennis pretty good but I hav never received training for it. I can hold my own against experienced players who have. Tennis involves controlled movements and tactical planning which includes predicting your opponents moves as well ass ball trajectory. in order to play well you have to harmonize your mind and your body so that you can act and react without (active) strenuous thought. I learned by just watching others and actually trying it myself while feeling it out . tennis is definitely more of a feel sport and is very internal. can the same be applied to the discovery and manipulation of ki? i know martial artist might reject this but keep in mind, though ki is an essential part of certain martial arts, it shouldn't be restricted to it ^-^ tnx
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:05 PM   #28
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Re: Extending Ki.

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...in order to play well you have to harmonize your mind and your body so that you can act and react without (active) strenuous thought. I learned by just watching others and actually trying it myself while feeling it out . tennis is definitely more of a feel sport and is very internal. can the same be applied to the discovery and manipulation of ki? i know martial artist might reject this but keep in mind, though ki is an essential part of certain martial arts, it shouldn't be restricted to it
All of "Ki" is an umbrella term used to explain "unknown forces"; i.e., it is composed of a lot of things (electricity, oxygen's effects, momentum, etc., etc.) that we wouldn't necessarily (in a western-science paradigm) consider as a single group the way it is considered in the ki-paradigm. Within the body functions/skills that are called "ki" there is again a grouping of a few factors that function as a unit sometimes, sometimes not, and we might not normally consider those phenomena as a single group.

That being said, there are some parts of "ki skills" that we use in small ways quite normally without thinking about them... those skills have been focused on and developed as part of the ki/kokyu skills, although there are a few more skills in the group that are pretty much outside of our day-to-day experiences. Of the normal and natural skills that you can build up, yes, a fairly coordinated person can build them up in fairly short order and yes those skills can certainly be used in a lot of day-to-day activities, sports, etc.

On the whole, it is quite common to do qigongs and neigongs to gain all or part of these "internal strength" skills so that you can add to the quality of your day-to-day life as you get older. It can make older people and smaller-framed people fairly powerful.

FWIW

Mike
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:41 PM   #29
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Re: Extending Ki.

i think that physically extending ki, is like when you practice with the bokken. you extend the ki to the end of the bokken. now the bokken becomes an extention of you.

same with the tennis racket .

practicing with the bokken, you dont swing it around with your arms. because you dont want the connection to be with the arms only....

it moves with your body, and is a part of your center,thus using less energy to use it.
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