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Old 05-09-2005, 11:41 AM   #1
craig chapman
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QiGong Combat

I have posted this thread only as a means of enquiry and also to get other martial artists point of view on this.

I am long time practitioner of the martial arts, (Aikido, taijiquan, qigong, freestyle martials i.e JKD, wing tai chuan gung fu etc)
I have for a while have been developing a system of intergrating QIGong, the age old system of health & well being, with freestyle martial arts i.e self defence. Hence the idea of being able disable an attacker with mininum effort but maximum force.
I know this sounds very familar to O'Sensei's great martial, but this doesnt include spiritual harmony bla bla blaaaa! (no disrespect meant, but Iv'e never been one for political martial arts)

Other Martial Artists POV's would be greatly apprieciated.

Many Thanks.

Craig Chapman

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Old 05-09-2005, 09:24 PM   #2
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Re: QiGong Combat

1. Read this: http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/martialarts.html
2. Good luck

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Old 05-09-2005, 11:04 PM   #3
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Re: QiGong Combat

Hey,
I think we'd all like to develop a martial art system that use's super sweet chi to defeat our enemy's. So now that we agree, how do you prescribe we do this????? Thats the hard part.

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Old 05-10-2005, 03:56 AM   #4
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Re: QiGong Combat

Thanks for the reply

Im a bit confused on what your saying though?

I studied Chen style Taijiquan under my master for 6 years, he has got to be the best teacher I have ever known to take down an attacker or opponent using of course some of his physical strength but mostly his chi, strength is in the mind...not in the body.

I hope this is been of some use.

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Old 05-10-2005, 04:37 AM   #5
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Re: QiGong Combat

Yeh, as a practioner (albiet a bit crap) of tai chi, chi gung and aikido, I would have said that tai chi IS what you are describing. I thought the whole point of tai-chi was that it is integrated (i.e. health and combat). I admire your direction, but I don't understand how what you are trying to develop differs from tai-chi? (most martial tai-chi students would do chi gung as well, and aikido's 'rowing exercise' is a chi building exercise, no?).

I know many Yang-style instructors now forget to mention anything about the martial application, which seems a shame since I don't believe all the health benefits can be done effectively without it (this is the yin-yang aspect).

Ian

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Old 05-10-2005, 05:53 AM   #6
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Re: QiGong Combat

Likewise, I don't how adding and subtracting bits and pieces from a number of martial arts would give you a new "system". No offense to our JKD friends, but it sounds like something a JKD practitioner might say. You might as well call it "jambalaya-do" or "chop-suey kung-fu-do".

However, if you're planning on creating your own "system" (as opposed to "style"), here's what you need to do:
1. What is the "doctrine" - i.e. the underlying fundamental philosophy of your system?
Aikido's fundamental doctrine is peaceful resolution of conflict thru harmonizing with an attacker's energy. Judo's doctrine is "yielding to strength". Taiji's doctrine is theh supreme ultimate union of yin and yang qi. TKD's doctrine is that the legs are a more powerful weapon than the hands. etc. etc.

2. What is the general fighting strategy?
In aikido, the general strategy is irimi, tenkan, ma-ai and kokyu. In Judo, it is kuzushi - "push when pulled, pull when pushed". In TKD, it's side-facing stances and ranges that the feet can reach.

3. What are the tactics/techniques?
How will you utilize the philosophy and strategies to formulate specific techniques for dealing with a range of attacks that your doctrine might encounter in a self-defense situation? In TKD, it's spinning kicks, snap kicks, combination kicks, feinting with the hands and body to strike with the feet. In karate, it's "blocking" and striking, with some kicks. In aikido, it's the use of sword movements to effect throws, or pins and joint lock controls, with the key distinction, that ki and kokyu extension forms the basis of such applied control or throws.

Then you need to take all of these factors into account and systematize a technical curriculum, emphasizing each of these aspects in the execution of such techniques, in dealing with the range of attacks that your doctrine believes it is most likely to encounter, ideally with distinction levels of technical competency. How many techniques will you have at each level? To what level of difficulty? What are the standards for determining technical proficiency and competency?

This is only a very general overview, but you get the idea.

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