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Old 04-14-2005, 12:52 AM   #1
Lorien Lowe
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AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

I partially separated my shoulder tonight in class. I'm supposed to wear a sling for 3-4 weeks! I was supposed to test for shodan on Friday.


grrrrrrrrrr.
just venting.

-LK
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Old 04-14-2005, 02:06 AM   #2
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Re: AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

Aw c'mon, it's not that bad.... you still have one arm.... might be a good test yet.... good luck for Friday.

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Old 04-14-2005, 02:49 AM   #3
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Re: AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

I was going to say "Stop your whining and go train" but that might not work out so well.

How about...there's a story about a guy who entered an all karate Japanese tournament with one arm tied behind his back because and Aikido guy busted it for him and he won the tournament. You could try to do the test.

Seriously..I wouldn't think about testing. There are worse things than waiting until the next grading period. Just think how good you'll be then

I do, however, understand your frustration. I had to sit in seiza and watch class for a month 5 days a week, 4 hours a day because I was dumb enough to do something bad to my shoulder and was unable to train. On the plus side, when I was able to slowly start training again my shoulder was a good bounce detector, so I could tell when my balance was off

Good Luck,

--Michael

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Old 04-14-2005, 06:25 AM   #4
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Re: AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

I know of a woman who tested (for ni dan, I think) with a broken toe, despite encouragement to put off the test (or maybe just take a promotion instead). I think it's probably better for your body to wait, but YUCK! How frustrating!

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Old 04-14-2005, 11:52 AM   #5
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Re: AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

Lorien, I feel your pain!
A shoulder separation, even a partial, should be allowed the full 6 to 8 wks to heal, or you will end up with chronic pain in it.

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Old 04-14-2005, 12:46 PM   #6
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Re: AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

For inspiration, I believe a dojo cho in MT or ID has been practicing aikido with 1 arm. You may wanna do a search on him. Like Janet, I feel your pain. Physically and emotionally frustrating it seems like.

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Old 04-14-2005, 12:54 PM   #7
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Re: AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

There is or was a student in D.C. that practiced and tested in Aikido with no arms.

I think you should test.

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Old 04-14-2005, 01:59 PM   #8
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Re: AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

Loren-

Sorry to hear about your shoulder. I took my shodan exam in your dojo many moons ago, Northcoast's 20th anniversary gasshuku, if I recall, and also tested for nidan with Tom. Your post sparked a few memories.

I'd wait on the test, especially if you're going to have Carl or Robert as ukes.

Please say hi to everyone for me, and good luck when you do test.
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Old 04-14-2005, 02:11 PM   #9
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Re: AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

I'm torn. My rational mind says of course you should wait until your healed. Taking the test now is not worth a life of chronic shoulder pain.

On the other hand I keep hearing the voice of a local karate instructor who says (paraphrase) "You're only as good as your worst day. If you are going to be attacked it's going to be when your leg is in a cast or your arm is in a sling."

Bronson

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Old 04-14-2005, 03:19 PM   #10
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Re: AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

Quote:
Tom Wharton wrote:
I'd wait on the test, especially if you're going to have Carl or Robert as ukes.
Neither; Robert just was called away for a family emergency, and Carl doesn't take much ukemi any more. Our current 'big bad uke,' Randy, isn't as big but is insanely fast.

But the doc said no aikido for four weeks.

-LK
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Old 04-14-2005, 04:20 PM   #11
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Re: AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

Practicing with no arms is very different than practicing with an injury.
A person accustomed to no arms is a balanced and uninjured person.
A person with an injury is an unbalanced person, not only trying to protect the injury, but relying on a bunch of ancillary structures to do its work.

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Old 04-14-2005, 08:33 PM   #12
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Re: AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

Bummer; my heart goes out to you. If you don't test - I know how it feels to give something up due to an injury. It's a drag. But remember WHY you are involved in Aikido,and be grateful that this is only a temporary setback. You do have the good health (in the absence of this injury) and financial comfort to pratice Aikido in the first place. IMAGINE the challanges of the person with no arms - not only on the mat, but in the bathroom, when dressing, when he or she wants to hug his or her kid. If yoiu don't test - In the grand scheme of things, the time you wait will be insignificant, in the long run. Think, instead, of what you can learn from this incident; what you can appreciate or take from this time. If you don't test - What else will you now be able to offer others, both on the mat and off; what mentoring can you now provide, how does all of this shape you as a person?
Then again, I realize that you are, as you say, only venting, so I am sure you know all of this. I suppose I, too, was venting, writing such a self-serving post as I have.
If you DO test - good luck!!
Sue

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Old 04-14-2005, 10:11 PM   #13
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Re: AAaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

Quote:
Lorien Lowe wrote:
Neither; Robert just was called away for a family emergency, and Carl doesn't take much ukemi any more. Our current 'big bad uke,' Randy, isn't as big but is insanely fast.
Red headed Randy? Aw heck, he's a pussy cat, you should go ahead and test.

Just Kidding

I'm sure the doc knows what he's talking about but when I ran my thumb through a table saw it about drove me nuts to be off the mat for four weeks, and I wasn't getting ready to test either. I can only imagine the emotional roller coaster.

It'll all work out in the long run, just sucks now.
Tom Wharton
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Old 04-15-2005, 04:54 AM   #14
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Hi Lorien: Maybe waiting with your injured shoulder ,suffering and going on... IS THE TEST?
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