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Old 02-23-2005, 07:42 PM   #1
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Question on etiquette

I've enjoyed every single aspect of my training. My fellow students, my sensei, my dojo as a whole. The dojo offers two arts, Tae Kwon Do and also Aikido. My question is, I have also been very interested in grappling arts, would it be considered disrespectful to take a grappling art elsewhere? I know there are some teachers here who could shed light on a personal level about how this would make them feel. Thanks in advance.
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:46 PM   #2
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Re: Question on etiquette

I can tell you that no sensei will take offense if you take another martial art elsewhere. There's nothing wrong with improving your skills in multiple areas, so long as it is something you enjoy. Be careful, though, not to get your techniques mixed up. ^_^

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Old 02-23-2005, 10:19 PM   #3
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Re: Question on etiquette

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Rob Cunningham wrote:
I can tell you that no sensei will take offense if you take another martial art elsewhere.
Not true. I know people who've been told they need to make a choice between the two styles they were studying.

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I have also been very interested in grappling arts, would it be considered disrespectful to take a grappling art elsewhere?
There is no way for us to know the particular etiquette your Sensei wants followed. Best bet is to simply ask. I'm sure that if you phrase it as a polite question it won't ruffle any feathers.

Bronson

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Old 02-23-2005, 11:31 PM   #4
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Re: Question on etiquette

Yah, I doubt my sensei be ruffled. I just respect my dojo so much that if its even considered bad etiquette then I'd just rather avoid it all together. Thanks for the feedback guys, was just curious how you would feel if some of your students did/asked that.
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Old 02-24-2005, 12:01 AM   #5
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Thanks for the feedback guys, was just curious how you would feel if some of your students did/asked that.
My Sensei has always encouraged us to experience other instructors and/or arts. I still asked if it would be ok with him if I trained in iaido while training in aikido.

Where I teach there are 5 arts (aikido, judo, karate, kobudo, MMA) taught at the same facility. Dojo dues cover all 5 arts and people from all arts are encouraged to try any others they may be interested in. Few people cross train to any significant degree.

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Old 02-24-2005, 08:07 AM   #6
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Re: Question on etiquette

My teacher always told me to go train anywhere and with anyone that I thought would help me.

If my students are interested in other martial arts, I usually go way out of my way to help them find someone who can help them out - even if it means they quit my class. Heck I've trained in other martial arts besides aikido and I thought it helped me a lot.

A couple of points from experience though:
1) If you have a teacher who is training you with a primary focus on your movement to get the feeling of what they are trying to teach you (rather than focusing on technique to feel the power you can have over someone primarily) then I'd suggest that you do not cross train until you are at least 2nd or 3rd degree blackbelt. (If you are in a dojo that stresses technique for the sake of technique, then I'd say go on to anything that focuses on movement provided _as stated above_ that you can keep your techniques straight.)

2) I got the idea that if someone in the lower dan ranks who was no longer taking class anywhere was willing to teach me things, that there would be no problem for me to go train with them, but I shouldn't invite such a person to come teach a seminar at my school as that would be giving similar status to professional teachers who fully paid their dues as students.

Good luck.
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Old 02-26-2005, 06:31 PM   #7
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Not true. I know people who've been told they need to make a choice between the two styles they were studying.
So very true.

I think the best way to go would be to approach your sensei and ask his/her thoughts. Hiding it would be poor taste and in my opinion do more harm than offending your sensei with the initial question.

I do not have a problem with students cross training.

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