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Old 02-08-2005, 05:05 AM   #1
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What to call a bokken?

I'm looking for the correct names for my two different types of bokken. I've several of the standard kind - curved, tapered handle one third the length of the blade - but I also have one that's neither curved nor tapered and the handle is a little bit longer. I know in my head that the two are just as strong, but the non-tapered one just feels studier and that tiny bit of extra wood near the tip really makes a difference during suburi. But I'm at a loss about two things. I need a way to refer to them other than Anduril and Glamdring. That works in my head but I wouldn't want anybody to overhear me. And I'm wondering about the history and use of the straight type of sword that the one bokken represents.
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:39 AM   #2
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Re: What to call a bokken?

Bokken or Bokuto is what I've heard. A suburito is a weighted on with a heavy tip.
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Old 02-08-2005, 07:57 AM   #3
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Re: What to call a bokken?

If you have a catalog from the Kiyota Company, there is a page showing all the bokken/bokuto that they offer, along with a listing of names by style. I also found this website that has some good descriptions + pictures.

http://bokkenshop.com/eng/style.html

As someone who is also training in Kendo and Iai, I have several different ones, and this has been the easiest way to describe which bokken I need... Is it the Jikishinkage-ryu, Itto-ryu, Yagyu-ryu?

At least that's easiest for me....
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Old 02-08-2005, 10:19 AM   #4
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Re: What to call a bokken?

Kingfisher woodworks also has some pictures of different bokkens, maybe you could find what you are looking for there also.
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Old 02-08-2005, 04:15 PM   #5
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Re: What to call a bokken?

Quote:
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...I also have one that's neither curved nor tapered and the handle is a little bit longer.
What do you call a boomerang that doesn't come back?

A stick.

(Sorry.)

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Old 02-12-2005, 12:08 AM   #6
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Re: What to call a bokken?

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I'm looking for the correct names for my two different types of bokken. I've several of the standard kind - curved, tapered handle one third the length of the blade - but I also have one that's neither curved nor tapered and the handle is a little bit longer. I know in my head that the two are just as strong, but the non-tapered one just feels studier and that tiny bit of extra wood near the tip really makes a difference during suburi. But I'm at a loss about two things. I need a way to refer to them other than Anduril and Glamdring. That works in my head but I wouldn't want anybody to overhear me. And I'm wondering about the history and use of the straight type of sword that the one bokken represents.
could be a bokken, bokuto, or shinai. The shinai is mostly used in kendo, though.
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Old 02-12-2005, 01:18 AM   #7
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Re: What to call a bokken?

Could you post a digital image ? Then we should be able to help you a little better - providing the pictures shows the bokken of course

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Old 02-12-2005, 06:08 AM   #8
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Re: What to call a bokken?

Not a shinai, a type a bokken / bokuto. The links above got the look right. See http://bokkenshop.com/eng/245.html and http://mivasecure.abac.com/kingfishe...egory_Code=abo . But using the school names is a bit of a problem. Each school used something just a little bit different making it difficult to get it right and making the term more or less meaningless for everyday use outside of that school. I just want to know the name for the two broad categories straight swords and curved swords. Perhaps those terms are the best that I can do.

For the record, my straight sword is a Kiyota standard issue. Living as I do a dozen or so blocks from the place I don't have a catalog. I suppose I could go there and ask, but I can never get out of the place without an hour's worth of conversation.
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Old 02-12-2005, 02:40 PM   #9
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Re: What to call a bokken?

I saw the title of the thread and thought maybe it was a zen thread!!!

What is the sound of one bokken slicing?

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Old 02-13-2005, 12:23 AM   #10
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Re: What to call a bokken?

i do Iwama style aikido, so we use and Iwama style bokken. that's the one with a flattened point, and very heavy. Others may use a more swordlike bokken with a more active point
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Old 02-15-2005, 04:54 AM   #11
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Re: What to call a bokken?

I think I've found it and it's called a Chokuto.
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Old 02-15-2005, 08:54 AM   #12
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Re: What to call a bokken?

I believe a chokuto is actually just an ancient Japanese sword style...but it might be the style that your bokken was designed after...

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Old 02-18-2005, 02:36 AM   #13
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Re: What to call a bokken?

Ummmm....
Where's the stressed syllable in bokken?
Is it bo-KEN or BO-ken? I've heard both.

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Old 02-18-2005, 07:30 AM   #14
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Re: What to call a bokken?

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Where's the stressed syllable in bokken?
Is it bo-KEN or BO-ken? I've heard both.
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Old 02-18-2005, 04:26 PM   #15
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Re: What to call a bokken?

Thanks, I hadn't found that area of Aikiweb yet. Very useful!
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