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Old 02-04-2005, 10:57 AM   #51
Fred Little
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Re: White Hakama - Pretentious ??

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It would be an interesting poll to see who would actually wear a white hakama. I don't think I would but I am going to get a dark purple one.
Mir
While white hakama are fairly common in a number of martial arts, and widely used by both priests and lay practitioners in Shinto and syncretic Shinto/Buddhist practice traditions like Shugendo, it's worth noting that within the Japanese cultural context purple hakama are most often worn by senior Shinto Priests attached to major shrines, so the unease that is caused in some quarters by a white hakama is likely to be multiplied several fold by a purple one.

Of course, what you do at home or your home dojo is always your own business, but by way of comparison, dressing up like the Pope and going to Sunday Mass might raise a few eyebrows at most parishes.

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Old 02-04-2005, 12:14 PM   #52
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Re: White Hakama - Pretentious ??

So from what I get from the above posts the answer for those in the "I wouldn't personally wear a white hakama for aikido practice because..." seems to basically include the following:

a) It doesn't follow modern aikido tradtion or my dojo custom, i.e. we're traditional black (kuro) or dark blue (kon).
b) It may be considered pretentious or maybe even disrespectful in other (and I would believe most) dojos I may visit for seminars or whatever. I'm not a soke or shinto priest.
c) I'm just not the kind of guy or gal who doesn't particularly like to stand out in an aikido crowd
d) I'm pragmatic and wouldn't want to deal with keeping it clean
e) all of the above

For me the answer is e I believe. That being said though I don't think there is anything intrinsically wrong with wearing white hakama, especially if your own dojo has no rules or customs that specify against it. Just be aware of the possible implications of it as others have noted.

As a sidenote for those interested in Japanese history, I remember reading that Sakamoto Ryoma was known to wear a white hakama around. As he was somewhat enamored with ships and other related nautical activities, I believe he felt that wearing a white hakama was the equivalent of sorts of wearing navy whites as his uniform.
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Old 02-04-2005, 04:39 PM   #53
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Re: White Hakama - Pretentious ??

Fred Little wrote .........While white hakama.......parishes.

Well, I am sure that my wearing a purple hakama would be the least of which that would raise an eyebrow or two in my approach to Aikido.

Since I am a member of an independent organization where we are encouraged to wear different colored or patterned hakama I should fit right in. And I seriously doubt that I will ever go to a seminar where something like that mattered but if I ever did I would wear my dark blue one.

But thanks for your input.

Mir
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Old 02-04-2005, 05:26 PM   #54
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Re: White Hakama - Pretentious ??

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Since I am a member of an independent organization where we are encouraged to wear different colored or patterned hakama I should fit right in.Mir
Aha....Well, if you're in a fashion-friendly zone to start out with, you're lucky on at least one count.

Wear it in good health!

FL
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