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Old 12-27-2004, 07:06 PM   #26
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Re: Problem with my sensei

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Should cross-post the above to Aikido Frauds.
Yes, and wouldn't it be interesting if the guy turns out not to be a fraud, like - if he's a qualified teacher in a legit school. I hope he's not, but I have seen such too.

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Old 12-27-2004, 07:48 PM   #27
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Re: Problem with my sensei

I meant Tim's post - specifically the second paragraph.

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Old 12-28-2004, 12:06 AM   #28
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Re: Problem with my sensei

I'm curious as to how long you have been with your sensei. You indicated that you are a sandan, did you obtain all of your ranks with your current sensei? If you have I would guess that you have been unhappy for some time but have chosen not to do anything until recently, which is fine.

At this point you ask these questions to outsiders, it is my opinion that you should probably look elsewhere for a dojo.

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Old 12-28-2004, 01:13 AM   #29
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Re: Problem with my sensei

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I'm curious as to how long you have been with your sensei. You indicated that you are a sandan, did you obtain all of your ranks with your current sensei? If you have I would guess that you have been unhappy for some time but have chosen not to do anything until recently, which is fine.
I thought he was saying that his instructor was a sandan, he himself is a yonkyu. In which case he probably hasn't been doing this art for more than a year or two.

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Old 12-29-2004, 05:35 AM   #30
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I thank you all for your advices and warnings.
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Old 01-06-2005, 07:34 PM   #31
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If yonkyo is about radial nerves and pain, it sounds like a lot of folks have the wrong idea
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Old 01-07-2005, 05:38 AM   #32
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Try another Dojo, see if your happier there.

Who knows, you might leave that other dojo feeling that you appreciate your current one more having seen another side. Either way you should be happpier.
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Old 01-07-2005, 11:49 AM   #33
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I've never understood the idea that I must by loyal to my teacher till death an/or senility do us part.
Yeh...such an idea sounds more japanese than western. I think thats where many japanese teachers run afoul when confronted with western ways of thinking and teaching. The history of aikido in Sweden is a perfect example of this. (long story)
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Old 01-09-2005, 04:23 AM   #34
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Actually Bertrand I train in Japan and let's just say there are certain understandings which have become warped in the west.

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Old 01-09-2005, 10:11 AM   #35
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Actually Bertrand I train in Japan and let's just say there are certain understandings which have become warped in the west.
Uhm, Bertrand isnt my name. My name is Fredrik.That qoute in my signature is taken from the philosopher Bertrand Russel.

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Old 01-09-2005, 05:43 PM   #36
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If yonkyo is about radial nerves and pain, it sounds like a lot of folks have the wrong idea
So you don't agree with these guys?

http://www.aikidoaus.com.au/dojo/docs/pms90_71_1059-1066.htm

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Old 01-09-2005, 05:46 PM   #37
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Re: Problem with my sensei

Mark Uttech wrote:
If yonkyo is about radial nerves and pain, it sounds like a lot of folks have the wrong idea .

Please explain.
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Old 01-10-2005, 07:03 AM   #38
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Simply, pain is not mandatory part of yonkajo/yonkyo

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Old 01-10-2005, 09:58 AM   #39
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So you don't agree with these guys?
http://aikidoaus.com.au/dojo/docs/pm..._1059-1066.htm
Fixed link.

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Old 01-10-2005, 07:20 PM   #40
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Re: Problem with my sensei

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Simply, pain is not mandatory part of yonkajo/yonkyo
I'll disagree with that for the simple reason that there is more effective hand placement for a pin or manouver without pain. You grip where you do because, although you can move the person without pain, pain is a possible incentive.

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Old 01-10-2005, 11:30 PM   #41
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I disagree with the idea that the pain must be acheived. Control works just as well, pain is just the icing on the cake if you so wish to use it. I have found try to get the"pain" often leads to the hold failing in the first place.
Better to go for control imo

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