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Old 11-29-2004, 07:15 PM   #1
chrisward
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Dizziness...

My sensai conducts several exercises at the beginning of each class. One of which we basically rotate in a circle on the balls of our feet with our arms extended until we reach the count of 100. We turn as fast as we can manage, and I have tried focusing on my hand while rotating and this works for awhile, however, inevitably I end up falling on my butt from being so dizzy and it is embarrassing. Does anyone out there have any suggestions or will this eventually dissapate?
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Old 11-29-2004, 08:39 PM   #2
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Re: Dizziness...

whats the name of the movement? tenkan, or is it tenkai?it shouldn't really matter. best thing you can do is to time your breathing(inhale as you begin to turn,exhale as you finish the turn). it works well to reduce dizziness in most cases. yeah, just set a rhythm to your breathing...
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Old 11-30-2004, 10:35 AM   #3
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Re: Dizziness...

A trick I've heard figure skaters, among other athletes, use is picking a point of reference much like you do with your hand, except that it is a stationary point. Doing this along with a set breathing pattern makes sense. This makes everything more mechanical and provides focus.
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Old 11-30-2004, 11:08 AM   #4
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Re: Dizziness...

if you focus on a moving object it WILL make you dizzy. Pick a spot on the wall in front of and behind you and focus on that. Its called "spotting" and its why ballet dancers don't get dizzy.

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Old 11-30-2004, 12:42 PM   #5
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Re: Dizziness...

Thanks for the replies and assistance. It made a difference this morning. I feel so compelled to share more about my sensei in OKC. His ora and character and his philosophy on teaching reminds me so much of Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kidd. And his story is one that fellow Aikidoka would love to read about and they would be so proud to embrace this sensei into the Aikido family...Thanks again everyone....Chris
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Old 12-06-2004, 03:31 PM   #6
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Re: Dizziness...

I'd just like to add, if I may, to try to keep your centre. This was recommended to me for doing forward ukemi, and other rolls, because we did them very quickly in aikijutsu, as we stand up, try to keep true to our centre, and focus on where we are, and all that. It's kinda hard to explain. It didn't help me much with the ukemi, but I'm not good with the focus yet, and it might work better wti hspinning, I dunno.

Sounds like a very unorthadox technique, though. Sounds kinda like the ultimate iriminage, lol
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:40 AM   #7
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Re: Dizziness...

As others have said, if you focus on your hand, it will only make you dizzier, because it is not a stationary object. In dance, we use a technique called `Spotting` to prevent dizziness. Pick a point on the front wall and focus on it. When you do this, your head should turn quickly so that you are looking at the point the entire time, even as your body faces backwards. You can practice this technique by turning slowly with small steps, looking at a picture or something you choose on a wall. Eventually, the point you focus on should be only about the size of a dime.

If you do get dizzy, stop spinning and take a moment to jump up a down (small jumps.) This will get rid of your dizziness faster than just standing still because it will cause the fluid spinning in your ears to stabilize faster.

Hope that helps a bit too
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Old 12-07-2004, 09:31 AM   #8
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Re: Dizziness...

Our kids' classes do this, though we don't usually go past 30 spins--100 is a lot! I've noticed that the instructors usually do only 5-10 themselves, "to show how it goes"--really to avoid the embarrassment that the kids are much better at it than we are.

The advice we're given is to move from the center, just letting the arms follow; and, as others have said, to snap the head around rather than letting it turn continuously. For "turning from the center" you can try grabbing your hakama knot and imagining that you're leading yourself from there.

Like most things, it gets better with practice. We had one student who got dizzy doing a single roll, and is now happily doing spinning throws and drills, though we haven't tried her on the 30-spins thing yet.

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