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Old 11-04-2004, 01:23 PM   #1
Dominic Toupin
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Difference between two techniques

I want to know is there any difference between the Mukae Daoshi from Yoseikan Aikido (also Aiki-Budo and Yosinkan) and the Irimi Nage from Aikikai ?

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Old 11-04-2004, 01:31 PM   #2
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Re: Difference between two techniques

As far as I can remember there is no technique in yos[h]inkan called 'Mukae Daoshi'...I do know of a Daito ryu technique (karuma daoshi I think) that at least has the Daoshi part...but for the life of me I can't connect the name to the kata right now! That's what I get for not training enough...

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Old 11-04-2004, 02:19 PM   #3
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Re: Difference between two techniques

Oh !

Sorry, Mukae Daoshi is from Yoseikan Aikido and Aiki-Budo probably not from Yoshinkan...
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:51 PM   #4
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Re: Difference between two techniques

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As far as I can remember there is no technique in yos[h]inkan called 'Mukae Daoshi'...I do know of a Daito ryu technique (karuma daoshi I think) that at least has the Daoshi part...but for the life of me I can't connect the name to the kata right now! That's what I get for not training enough...

Ron
Hi, Ron.

KURUMA DAOSHI (Wheel Throw Down) looks like OSOTO GARI from YOKOMENUCHI (Juan came back from Japan calling YOKOMENUCHI KESA GIRI).

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Old 11-05-2004, 11:08 AM   #5
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Re: Difference between two techniques

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Kesa Giri is sword technique
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Old 11-05-2004, 11:10 AM   #6
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Re: Difference between two techniques

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Exactly! and exactly the point...

The funny thing is Don, I described the technique reasonably well in a post to George, but couldn't have named it for my life...and I wasn't sure at the time that I wasn't confusing two separate techniques. So I checked it before leaving for work this morning

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Old 11-08-2004, 10:55 PM   #7
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I want to know is there any difference between the Mukae Daoshi from Yoseikan Aikido (also Aiki-Budo and Yosinkan) and the Irimi Nage from Aikikai ?

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The differences are fairly minor. They are both "more or less" the same technique. How you enter and unbalance changes a bit, but, you could look at the same technique and call it Mukae Daoshi (confronting push down) or Irimi Nage depending on which style you take or are familiar with.


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Old 11-09-2004, 11:04 AM   #8
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Thank you Robert !
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