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Old 10-04-2004, 04:05 AM   #1
Michael Cardwell
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Daito Ryu Weapons

Anyone know what, if any, kind of weapons the guys in Daito Ryu use? I'm curius to know if they use the war fan, since a lot of the stories about Takeda always mention that he carried one. I interested in learning how to use that paticular weapon thats why I bring it up.
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Old 10-04-2004, 09:43 AM   #2
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Re: Daito Ryu Weapons

Quick search suggests that there are many weapons used in Daito-ryu, including the war fan. I'm not sure how well daito-ryu is represented by modern martial arts though - i.e. whether to a large extent in some clubs it has been reconstructed from it's derivatives (aikido, hapkido etc).

See this site:
http://www.daito-ryu.com/en/pag4.htm

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Old 10-05-2004, 12:45 AM   #3
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Re: Daito Ryu Weapons

Thanks for the info, Ian.
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Old 10-05-2004, 02:04 AM   #4
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Re: Daito Ryu Weapons

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Ian Dodkins wrote:
Quick search suggests that there are many weapons used in Daito-ryu, including the war fan. I'm not sure how well daito-ryu is represented by modern martial arts though - i.e. whether to a large extent in some clubs it has been reconstructed from it's derivatives (aikido, hapkido etc).

See this site:
http://www.daito-ryu.com/en/pag4.htm
I am curious as to why you might think that some of the Daito Ryu we see around might be reconstructed rather than directly handed down? There has been no break in the succession of Daito Ryu. There are a number of people who have been teaching for many years who were direct students of Takeda Sokaku, including his son. Those teachers created a larger group of formaly trained instructor level teachers who are spreading Daito Ryu around the world. I have encountered Kondo Sensei twice myself at the Aiki Expo and I know he is overseeing the practice of folks training in various places around the states.

It would seem to me that we are really talking about the difference between the folks who are really doing Daito Ryu under a legitimate teacher and those who are bogus, trying to make up some Daito Ryu-like content that would only fool a group of beginners who wouldn't know any better.

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Old 10-05-2004, 07:00 AM   #5
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Re: Daito Ryu Weapons

Hi George,

There's an awfull lot of the made up guys around, and they muddy the waters quite a bit. The website listed is a group of students and teachers from the mainline branch, but there is a bit of controversey about them too...

It is hard for a beginner to get a good clue when there are instructors claiming to teach Daito ryu which is warmed over karate, kung fu, chi na, jujutsu, etc. Its a shame really...

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Old 10-09-2004, 09:27 PM   #6
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Re: Daito Ryu Weapons

If you are interested in the war fan, you might try some of the practioners of the koryu forms
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Old 10-21-2004, 05:03 AM   #7
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Re: Daito Ryu Weapons

Koryu? I'm not familier with that style, could you give me some more info?
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Old 10-21-2004, 06:30 AM   #8
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Re: Daito Ryu Weapons

Koryu is not a style.
Surf to:
www.koryu.com
www.e-budo.com
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Old 10-21-2004, 07:00 AM   #9
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Re: Daito Ryu Weapons

Thanks for the info, Peter. Unfortunately it looks like most of the those older styles are only taught by qualified teachers in Japan. I do not see me being able to make it there anytime soon. If anyone knows about any dojos in the states could you clue me in?
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Old 10-21-2004, 07:47 AM   #10
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Re: Daito Ryu Weapons

If you look carefully at e-budo, you will find that there is koryu available in the US for those who extend themselves.

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Old 10-21-2004, 09:00 AM   #11
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Re: Daito Ryu Weapons

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Michael Cardwell wrote:
Thanks for the info, Peter. Unfortunately it looks like most of the those older styles are only taught by qualified teachers in Japan. I do not see me being able to make it there anytime soon. If anyone knows
about any dojos in the states could you clue me in?
All of these folks are teaching in the states I believe...
Search for:
Relnick, Phil
Amdur, Ellis
Armstrong, Hunter B.
Bieri, Larry
Friday, Karl
Lowry, Dave
Muromoto, Wayne
Skoss, Diane
Skoss, Meik

George S. Ledyard
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Bellevue, WA
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Old 10-22-2004, 01:24 AM   #12
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Thanks all.
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