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Old 10-08-2004, 10:50 AM   #1
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Square Horizontal Ukemi

Does anyone ever work on how to hit a wall if pushed from the front or the rear?
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Old 10-08-2004, 01:23 PM   #2
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Re: Horizontal Ukemi

I never have although I'd imagine it would be exactly like taking a standard backfall. Just your standing up...
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Old 10-08-2004, 09:08 PM   #3
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Re: Horizontal Ukemi

Can't say I've seriously trained it but I've played with it a bit. Keep your head from smashing is the important thing. Try to keep balance. When hitting back-first I usually don't slap for whatever reason. Look at how hockey players take a check into the boards. It mostly is like a breakfall except standing, except for keeping your balance. You can use vertical movement to get out of the way of force as well.

Saw a Systema tape that had some drills for being backed up against a wall or in a corner. Mobility is still important, using sliding movements.

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Old 10-09-2004, 12:08 AM   #4
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Re: Horizontal Ukemi

We were working from a two handed front choke where uke had nage against a wall. When Sensei did the technique and spun around so I hit the wall I noticed I had landed in a side breakfallish position. It wasn't perfect because of the slightly different body postition but it was definitely recongnizable

Oh, and we never practiced landing on walls this way....it just happened.

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Old 10-09-2004, 12:32 AM   #5
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Re: Horizontal Ukemi

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Jon Truho wrote:
Does anyone ever work on how to hit a wall if pushed from the front or the rear?
Oh yeah, if I could be allowed to nitpick a little, landing on a wall would be vertical ukemi.



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Old 10-09-2004, 05:34 AM   #6
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Re: Horizontal Ukemi

I practice backwards ukemi into walls, using my feet to meet and absorb the impact. As has been said, its just a floor that happens to be 90 degrees in the wrong place.

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Old 10-09-2004, 08:03 AM   #7
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Re: Horizontal Ukemi

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Does anyone ever work on how to hit a wall if pushed from the front or the rear?

My first dojo, Kishi Dojo in Manila, had a large pillar in the center. So when thrown hard toward it, we all developed the standing ukemi: roll to your feet and slam both hands on the pillar. So by force of circumstance, we worked on that technique quite a lot.


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Old 10-10-2004, 05:30 PM   #8
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Re: Horizontal Ukemi

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Oh yeah, if I could be allowed to nitpick a little, landing on a wall would be vertical ukemi.
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Not if the type of the ukemi is determined by the direction of motion rather than the placement of the falling area. In which case, falling vertically to the floor would be vertical ukemi and falling horizontally towards the wall would be horizontal ukemi.

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Old 10-10-2004, 05:40 PM   #9
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Re: Horizontal Ukemi

What matters is the ability to increase/decrease friction along the line of the roll.

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