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Old 09-18-2004, 04:00 PM   #26
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Re: Ikkyo vs elbow or bicep/shoulder

steff miller wrote:
If you grab above the elbow you better be stronger than uke becuase if he has any martial mind set he will stop it, also try grabing under the elbow rather than on top, that agian is easy to counter, but if you cut the arm over and take the elbow from underneath you can roll thearm giving you max control.
I agree with Steff. I'm a formerly competitive heavy weight powerlifter and there is no way you're going to get me down with ikkyo with your hand on my shoulder, tricep, or bicep. Control my elobow on the other hand, and even the little ol' ladies in class can take me down with ease.

I gave a demonstration last week for my police defensive tactics class (on a side note) and had a 17 year old girl pin me by the elbow ikkyo style. I then tried my hardest to stand up and couldn't... the class was suitably impressed.

Go for the elbow.
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