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Old 03-01-2005, 03:33 PM   #26
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

yeah thats what i hear.

BTW whats up with some guys not wearing gi pants under their hakama.... i understand it might be hot or uncomfortable but ive been flashed a few times during training and... uuuuhhhh... its not very pleasant.
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:47 PM   #27
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

I'm not so accustomed to no gi pants, but I know some folks who do not wear anything under their gi pants... taking the term "commando" a little too far in my opinion. They say it is b/c the gi is considered the undergarment in this context, but all the same - need a little support, don't ya?
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:49 PM   #28
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

By the way, Mal, I see you are just North of us. If you are in the Reading area, feel free to look us up, we love to have visitors. Look us up on the web for directions.
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Old 03-01-2005, 05:01 PM   #29
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

hey i will definatly look into it!!!
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Old 03-01-2005, 08:35 PM   #30
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

I used to go commando under gi pants, but koshis and a fear of Testicular Torsion put an end to it.
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Old 03-02-2005, 08:25 AM   #31
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

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Charles Scheid wrote:
I used to go commando under gi pants, but koshis and a fear of Testicular Torsion put an end to it.
I shouldn't laugh, but funny how all that seems related: Cold dojo, sexy uke (M or F), tough technique.....

Causes:
Congenital anomaly; bell clapper deformity
Undescended testicle
Sexual arousal and/or activity
Trauma
Exercise
Active cremasteric reflex
Cold weather

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Old 03-02-2005, 02:01 PM   #32
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

We call it "The Clackers."
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Old 03-02-2005, 02:34 PM   #33
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

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Mal Smith wrote:
yeah thats what i hear.

BTW whats up with some guys not wearing gi pants under their hakama.... i understand it might be hot or uncomfortable but ive been flashed a few times during training and... uuuuhhhh... its not very pleasant.
Maybe nobody has every suggested to them that if they're going to go full commando then it would be a good idea to buy a white kendo top (which is a good bit longer) instead of a standard judo gi. No pants is common in koryu training, but the keiko-gi is typically enough longer to cover the vents in the hakama.

The other option I'm seeing more and more of is a pair of bicycle shorts in place of the pants, which deals with all the too hot, too brief, too uncomfortable and not enough support issues others have raised.

Hope this helps,

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Old 03-02-2005, 08:19 PM   #34
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

why not just roll up the gi pants underneath?
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Old 03-03-2005, 07:09 PM   #35
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

Some people just whack 'em off at the knee.

Has anyone worn the silk blend hakamas? Are they light and cool? Do they flow with movement?

Jeanne(soon to be ordering my first hakama)Shepard
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Old 03-03-2005, 08:08 PM   #36
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

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We call it "The Clackers."
We taught the concept of the to a Japanese guy training for a while at our dojo, and his version was "kintama tsubureta" (SP?), which supposedly translates to "Ball Press".
Quite amusing when said with a straight face and accompanying hand-clapping motion.
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Old 03-03-2005, 09:24 PM   #37
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

oh wow they make silk blend hakama???!! that sounds really awesome!!! anybody know how they are???
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Old 03-04-2005, 02:33 AM   #38
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

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Some people just whack 'em off at the knee.
Those of us with hakama in our dojo keep our gi pants at about mid-shin. It's considered bad taste in our parts to have your pants showing below the hakama (analagous to having a slip showing below a skirt).

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Has anyone worn the silk blend hakamas? Are they light and cool? Do they flow with movement?
I've never worn one but my experience with silk is that it's quite warm. Blended materials may be different though. For my money I like the Tetron hakama. Light and flowing (a little on the warm side but not too bad), tough as nails, and easily maintained.

Bronson

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Old 03-20-2005, 08:51 PM   #39
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the purpose of hakama was to hide the position of your feet.
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Old 03-20-2005, 09:46 PM   #40
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

Usually I try not to comment to dojo colleagues about their dress, but recently I told a kohai to get new pants after being thrown and noticing that the crotch had been ripped out of his pants for some time.

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Old 03-20-2005, 09:48 PM   #41
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Maybe that's why some dojos require hakama right off the bat?
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Old 03-21-2005, 05:42 AM   #42
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

Tanner,

No, hakama are not designed to cover you feet. This is a martial art myth.

The people who understand, understand prefectly.
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Old 04-08-2005, 11:15 AM   #43
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

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court, I suppose).

"Field" hakama (sobakama?) had straight legs ad looked more like modern pants.


Chuck
as a matter of fact those hakama could be replicated by tying back the lega and sort of stuffing them into boots (or so i've heard)

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Old 04-09-2005, 02:07 AM   #44
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Re: Hakama length...a matter of taste?

We're not allowed to wear boots at our dojo.
It seems like hakamas shorten the longer you wear them, all brands from what I hear. I'm on my first one and it has shortened a bit despite being a Tetron (rayon/cotton mix from http://aikido.tozando.com) which I love. It's easy to wash in the tub plus it floats around and makes a nice whoshing sound with speed shikkoing and breakfalls. It did trip me up a few times at first but that's part of the fun.

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