Welcome to AikiWeb Aikido Information
AikiWeb: The Source for Aikido Information
AikiWeb's principal purpose is to serve the Internet community as a repository and dissemination point for aikido information.

Sections
home
aikido articles
columns

Discussions
forums
aikiblogs

Databases
dojo search
seminars
image gallery
supplies
links directory

Reviews
book reviews
video reviews
dvd reviews
equip. reviews

News
submit
archive

Miscellaneous
newsletter
rss feeds
polls
about

Follow us on



Home > AikiWeb Aikido Forums
Go Back   AikiWeb Aikido Forums > Testing

Hello and thank you for visiting AikiWeb, the world's most active online Aikido community! This site is home to over 22,000 aikido practitioners from around the world and covers a wide range of aikido topics including techniques, philosophy, history, humor, beginner issues, the marketplace, and more.

If you wish to join in the discussions or use the other advanced features available, you will need to register first. Registration is absolutely free and takes only a few minutes to complete so sign up today!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-01-2004, 05:49 PM   #1
Amassus
 
Amassus's Avatar
Dojo: Aikido Musubi Ryu/ Yoshin Wadokan
Location: Hamilton
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 305
New Zealand
Offline
Knowing you have already passed

After reading the thread about standards for testing I felt compelled to start this thread.

It seems that most dojos work off the idea that testing schedules are held and students can apply to test. After they have done the test they must wait for a decision as to whether they passed or not. (I could be totally wrong on this)

At my club testing works a little differently. We have scheduled grading times, but the sensei tells the students who will be going for the grading and generally this means that sensei thinks those students are ready to advance. So basically the decision has already been made. What the grading is used for is to see how the student performs under pressure and to see where the students needs to improve in technique.
Now, of course some students refuse the offer, but to do this is a great insult to the sensei as he obviously sees the skill in the student so to turn him down is like saying "you don't know what you are talking about, I'm not that good yet".
Sensei obvioulsy thinks you are.

So some students may not grade for a while because sensei doesn't think they are ready so won't ask them to grade.

What I like about this method is that I can go to training and not worry about cramming for a test. I just forget about ranks and train as well as I can, when sensei thinks I'm ready to advance he will tell me. Of course, I start to get nervous when I'm told that I'll be participating in the next grading, but hey, I"m only human.

Is my club alone in this method or am I reading things wrong?

"flows like water, reflects like a mirror, and responds like an echo." Chaung-tse
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2004, 07:35 PM   #2
Jessie Brown
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 31
United_States
Offline
Re: Knowing you have already passed

My dojo's way of doing things is kind of similar. Students can ask Sensei if they have his permission to test. Sensei has no problem telling students to wait if he thinks they aren't ready. If he does allow them to test, this is by no means a guarantee but rather an endorsement along the lines of, "if you continue training hard and if you prepare, you will pass the test."

So...students almost always pass their tests. Only infrequently, when the student doesn't rise to the occasion, does he not pass. We don't have the kind of testing where there's usually someone who doesn't pass. Of course, there are always varying degrees of success, which influences how soon Sensei will allow you to take your next test, etc...

Testing is and should be stressful on some level, though, so I wouldn't think a guaranteed pass would be constructive.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2004, 08:10 PM   #3
Jeanne Shepard
 
Jeanne Shepard's Avatar
Dojo: Puget Sound Aikikai
Location: Seattle
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 351
Offline
Re: Knowing you have already passed

We get told its time to prep for the next level (test), as in " I think, Jeanne, you should be ready to take 2nd Kyu in November." That means, though, that learning all the techniques ,( and the correct variations) on the test is up to us, and we have to find a sempai who will work with us, because not all of the required techniques are done routinely in classes.

Jeanne
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2004, 07:12 AM   #4
Nick Simpson
Dojo: White Rose Aikido - Durham University
Location: Gateshead
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 916
United Kingdom
Offline
Re: Knowing you have already passed

Were told when we will test by our sensei.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2004, 07:29 AM   #5
kocakb
Dojo: Burhan Felek Sport Center-Istanbul
Location: Istanbul
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 110
Turkey
Offline
Re: Knowing you have already passed

we have a test every 3 month, and if you get the 1st Kyu, you wait 1 year and attend to 4 seminars during the time, to get a black belt.

If you have participated almost to every training, you have the right to take a kyu test (but I saw people who come to train just 2 weeks ago before the test is done and also take the test !!!)...almost everybody passes the test (have not seen yet anyone who failed)...about 3 weeks before the test will be hold, we start to train only the techniques, we will be responsible at the test.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2004, 08:28 PM   #6
gilsinnj
 
gilsinnj's Avatar
Dojo: Aikido Mt. Airy
Location: Maryland
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 37
United_States
Offline
Re: Knowing you have already passed

One good thing about belonging to an independant style of Aikido is that we don't have things like set test times and applying for tests. The theory our style uses for testing is that you are constantly testing for the next rank. (Example: a student tests for 4th kyu. The next he gets on the mat, he starts testing for 3rd kyu.) The actual tests are more of a demonstration instead of a pass/fail event. Our Sempai and Sensei do not put us up for the different ranks unless we are ready for that rank.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2004, 10:01 PM   #7
xuzen
 
xuzen's Avatar
Dojo: None at the moment - on hiatus
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 965
Malaysia
Offline
Re: Knowing you have already passed

My dojo test biannually. Whether you pass or not, the decision has already more or less been decided by the chief instructor (sensei) weeks in advance. When we practice, I observe that my sensei will inconspiciously observe our techniques, our kokuro (spirit) and general attitude. When the final day comes, it is more to see how we handle ourselves under pressure. If you do not make a major blunder you pass.

If you are going for higher grades, sometimes the sensei will also ask us to take over the junior grades class and he will observe you, quitely. You better know your stuff. From these activities my sensei would have decide if you are ready to move ahead.

Regards,
Boon
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2004, 03:53 AM   #8
tiyler_durden
Location: Amsterdam
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 68
Netherlands
Offline
Re: Knowing you have already passed

Hey,

I actually have no idea i no one has even given me a ocument or told me how the system works in my Dojo!

sad but true.What I do know is that 1 year agao there was a girl who started at the same time as me nad is now a black belt,so i guess it takes one year at my dojo to become a blackbelt!!

just my 2 cents,

Tiyler Durden

"Deal with the faults as gently a your own"
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2004, 11:55 AM   #9
gilsinnj
 
gilsinnj's Avatar
Dojo: Aikido Mt. Airy
Location: Maryland
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 37
United_States
Offline
Re: Knowing you have already passed

I'd like to clarify what I said earlier. There is one way you can fail the tests in our style of Aikido - You give up! As long as you push yourself to get through the test, you are promoted.
  Reply With Quote

Please visit our sponsor:

Budo Bear Patterns - Sewing pattern for Women's (and Men's) dogi.



Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
hello, just passed my 2nd kyu test today dvb Introductions 6 12-18-2004 11:45 PM
Poll: How important is knowing step-by-step kihonwaza (basic techniques) for experienced aikido students? AikiWeb System AikiWeb System 4 09-16-2004 04:53 AM
Poll: How important is knowing step-by-step kihonwaza (basic techniques) for beginning aikido students? AikiWeb System AikiWeb System 11 09-10-2004 08:00 PM
Poll: Do you think your aikido dojo would survive for a year if its chief instructor passed away tom AikiWeb System AikiWeb System 18 04-28-2003 09:26 AM
It's bugging me happysod General 17 12-12-2002 08:57 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:48 AM.



vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2014 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited
----------
Copyright 1997-2014 AikiWeb and its Authors, All Rights Reserved.
----------
For questions and comments about this website:
Send E-mail
plainlaid-picaresque outchasing-protistan explicantia-altarage seaford-stellionate