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Old 05-14-2004, 09:38 AM   #1
Paul Melsness
Dojo: Ottawa Aikikai
Location: Ottawa
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 13
Double Randori

Hi all (TGIF),

Thought I'd share an interesting experience with you from our morning class today.
At the end of our practise, our sensei decided to try something new for fun (it being Friday and all). We did randori with 2 nage (pretend you are a couple coming home from the pub, he said).
I found this to be quite a different dynamic from regular randori.
As one of the nage, I found myself thinking more about my partner than myself and my attention kept getting drawn to her rather than focusing on mu shin. As uke, the experience was also somewhat confusing. On one occasion, I was coming in for a shomenuchi strike (with my focus fully on that) when I felt two hands plant solidly on my shoulders from behind. The next thing I knew, I was face down on the mat.

Has anyone else tried this before? We had an interesting discussion afterwards about the best strategies for nage (and uke). I found I couldn't just walk through the attacks as in regular single-nage randori. We figured being stationary and back-to-back might be the best defense (circle the wagons). I'd be interested to hear what others found worked for them and especially what pitfalls to avoid.


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Old 05-14-2004, 09:50 AM   #2
Dojo: Kododan Aikido USA
Location: Radford Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 201
Re: Double Randori

We tried that once... . Two nage, and maybe six uke. We did well for a bit, but ended up running over each other as worked our way through the attackers. It was definitely fun, though.

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Old 05-14-2004, 06:32 PM   #3
Lan Powers
Dojo: Aikido of Midland, Midland TX
Location: Midland Tx
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 660
Re: Double Randori

Sounds like a blast! I would love to participate.

Play nice, practice hard, but remember, this is a MARTIAL art!
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Old 05-14-2004, 07:29 PM   #4
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 169
Re: Double Randori

Yep, it is a real blast!

I have been doing it for years, 2 v 3, 3 v 5, 4 v 8, 6 v 12, 8 v 16, ......

I was trying to think what the biggest one was.

The biggest lessons are that there is a tendency (as Sh'te) to attack your fellow Sh'te by accident, instead of the Uke(s)! Friendly Fire!

As Uke you tend to attack with grabs, not strikes!


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Old 05-15-2004, 03:27 AM   #5
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Dojo: Shuryukan Yoshinkai Aikido
Location: Khobar Saudi Arabia
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 179
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Re: Double Randori

We do this from time to time. attacks vary from grabbing to punching and kicking... it's really a mess, especially to ukes - they could be piled on top of one another in some cases - you really need to have big area to enjoy it more, but its definitely fun.
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Old 05-15-2004, 06:11 AM   #6
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Re: Double Randori

Mark Dobro wrote:
As Uke you tend to attack with grabs, not strikes!

I mean that you can attack in any way, but as it gets going you tend to start grabbing. Maybe to try and hold them still?

Sometimes we change it so that there is only one attack allowed, like Yokoman Uchi. I have seen Ukes running across the tatami after Sh'te, arm raised like a darlek!!! They didn't catch him!!!
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Old 05-16-2004, 07:56 PM   #7
Dojo: Aikido School of Greenville, SC
Location: Charlotte, NC
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 5
Re: Double Randori

Interesting. I like the concept and will bring it up in our next class with our sr. instructor. Like most Aikido Dojo's we do a lot with randori and multiple attackers, but I haven't done this before. Since we do a great deal with real life situations in our school it will be a good addition.
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Old 05-17-2004, 06:48 AM   #8
Mark Balogh
Dojo: Mushinkan Dojo, Guildford
Location: Surrey, UK
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 106
Re: Double Randori

I've always wondered about this because you see a lot of teamwork/team fighting in Kung Fu and Ninjitsu. I think we are going to have to try it in my dojo!
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