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Old 03-26-2004, 07:38 PM   #1
dan guthrie
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Question Best DVD to "recruit" my nephew

I'm very new to Aikido and I'd like to get my nine-year old nephew involved. He's coordinated and active but he could use some direction and maturity.
Which DVD or series of DVDs would be good for this kind of recruitment?
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Old 03-26-2004, 08:48 PM   #2
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Ki Symbol

While I am only 6th Kyu (Yellow Belt), I watched steven seagal, and many other aikido tapes for nearly a decade and it never got me to a class.

Best thing is to get him/her to a class to see what it is about, that may sway them differently, just my 2 cents
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Old 03-26-2004, 11:41 PM   #3
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i'd say - bring them to a beginners class, but bring them to an advanced class as well. To be honest, it was seeing the flow of the advanced class that sold be right away - I signed up and bought a gi the next day, and have been going at it since!

Show them beginner's class so that they're aware that they will have to work for it. Show them advanced class so that they can see what they can become.

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Old 03-27-2004, 04:07 AM   #4
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This one.
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Old 03-27-2004, 07:19 AM   #5
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He's way too young for that DVD and I agree with you, Andy, about Seagal.

I've tried to get him to a class, they have an abbreviated version in his school. He lives in Grass Valley and there are two dojos within 15 minutes. My sister won't ask him to try, either. The DVD route is pretty much my last hope.

I didn't say earlier, I want a DVD so I can make a tape to send to him and a few other people.

Thanks for your input.
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Old 04-01-2004, 07:37 PM   #6
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If he is that independent, trying to 'recruit' him will probably fail. Instead you should try forbidding him to do anything MA related because it is too difficult and too dangerous. (that will probably make him take a beeline to the nearest dojo)
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Old 04-02-2004, 06:44 AM   #7
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When he's ready (if ever) he will train.

Example:

I have three children (ages 12, 9 & 6) and none of them train; although they have sat at the side of the tatami while I train and teach.

I live in hope that they will one day but I will never force them.
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Old 04-02-2004, 12:06 PM   #8
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Bruce Bookman Sensei has a video out directed toward children: Aikido for Children(http://www.tenzanaikido.com/pages/aikidovideos.htm)

I also find that my Aikidokids really are fascinated by the O-Sensei videos from Aiki Journal.

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Old 04-02-2004, 06:38 PM   #9
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Paul Mihalik (Largo) wrote:
If he is that independent, trying to 'recruit' him will probably fail. Instead you should try forbidding him to do anything MA related because it is too difficult and too dangerous. (that will probably make him take a beeline to the nearest dojo)
You are a genius, and how long have you known my nephew?

Nothing as direct as reverse psychology will succeed but you've given me something to work on. It's going to be a long, slow process because he's bright as well.
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Old 04-02-2004, 09:00 PM   #10
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I wouldn't press it. Do what you can to inspire him, but don't push him if he doesn't want to go that way. Nine year olds are a pretty inmature as a rule, give him some time and some patient guidance and perhaps he will choose to practice it someday. Maybe something else would inspire him. Have you thought about other activities that cultivate discipline. Climbing is a sport that I have personally seen inspire young kids. What about other sports? When I was that age people pushed me every which way to help me, but it never worked. Nothing worked until about ten years down the road when I finally got some room to breath and explore life on my own. Thats just my take, maybe I'm way off base. Good luck,

Austin
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Old 04-02-2004, 11:07 PM   #11
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Austin Piccone (cuguacuarana) wrote:
I wouldn't press it. Do what you can to inspire him, but don't push him if he doesn't want to go that way. Nine year olds are a pretty immature as a rule, give him some time and some patient guidance and perhaps he will choose to practice it someday. Maybe something else would inspire him. Have you thought about other activities that cultivate discipline. Climbing is a sport that I have personally seen inspire young kids. What about other sports? When I was that age people pushed me every which way to help me, but it never worked. Nothing worked until about ten years down the road when I finally got some room to breath and explore life on my own. Thats just my take, maybe I'm way off base. Good luck,

Austin
Thanks, my sister (single mom) is putting him in every team sport available. She doesn't force him, just encourages and he's stuck with all of them. He seems to be pretty good at baseball, but basketball and soccer aren't going to be in his future.

I'm pushing Aikido because of it's influence on me.

I've never looked forward to anything as much as my next trip to the dojo. I want him to share the same joy I feel.

I'll be happy if I can just get him through a month of lessons. If he bows out (oooh, a pun I didn't see ) then, at least he had the exposure.

Has anyone else seen children's Aikido? It's hilarious!
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Old 04-04-2004, 09:52 AM   #12
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IMHO, the Aiki Expo tapes. They show some good (and bad) Aikido, but is a good variety. Something is bound to catch his interest.

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Old 04-04-2004, 08:04 PM   #13
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Quote:
Dan Guthrie (DGuthrie) wrote:
You are a genius, and how long have you known my nephew?

Nothing as direct as reverse psychology will succeed but you've given me something to work on. It's going to be a long, slow process because he's bright as well.
Thanks. Anyways, I think that that was actually one of the things that got me into martial arts. I remember on Sunday afternoons (when I was about 7 or so), there used to be "black belt theater" on T.V. (different old kung fu movies). My parents were very anti- violence, so when they caught me watching that kind of movies, they flipped out. (you'd have thought they caught me watching hard core porn).

Anyways, their attitude naturally had the effect of making me all the more curious about martial arts. I read everything I could get my hands on. Unfortunately, I didn't get the chance to actually DO martial arts until I was a senior in High School...but after waiting for so long and finally being able to do what I had dreamed about is what I think kept me going through the tougher parts of training.

Sometimes I think that if my parents had signed me up for something at that time, I would have never stuck with it.
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Old 04-05-2004, 01:38 PM   #14
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Why don't you try and talk to him like an adult. Tell him why aikido is so important to you and some of the lessons you've learned? Tell him the truth. As his uncle and someone who loves him, that this is something that you would like to share with him. Maybe the "sale" is deepening his relationship with his uncle?

If you show him respect and honesty, maybe he'll respond by giving you the same respect in return and say "I'll try it for a week".

Jim

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Old 04-05-2004, 10:49 PM   #15
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James Growney (jgrowney) wrote:
Why don't you try and talk to him like an adult. Tell him why aikido is so important to you and some of the lessons you've learned? Tell him the truth. As his uncle and someone who loves him, that this is something that you would like to share with him. Maybe the "sale" is deepening his relationship with his uncle?

If you show him respect and honesty, maybe he'll respond by giving you the same respect in return and say "I'll try it for a week".

Jim
That's the first thing I tried. He's very contrary. His school offers three or four martial arts for a few weeks in the fall. I'm actually going to bite my tongue from now until then and hope he tries Aikido then. If he asks, I'll throw him on the ground and make him say "uncle."
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Old 04-07-2004, 10:40 PM   #16
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If he's really not interested, then sales pitches or force will only make him hate it. Even if you drag him in, he won't learn a thing.(trust me...I have bad memories of being forced into little league.)
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