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Old 10-12-2003, 09:56 AM   #1
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Danger to yourself of others/ basic concepts.

Years ago, when being considered to be a danger to others, because of physical confrontations that got out of hand, I heard a phrase by the Psychiatrist, " ....NOT a danger to your self or others."

Being a young teenager I didn't know what that meant, except that society judges you on this time and time again.

Many people ask where the line is drawn, in civil society, when to interact when they see a problem, or when society is responsible for taking away the freedoms of another individual, I think this is where the line is drawn.

The justification of violence by members of society to protect society is also determined by this line and keeping this line in place should members of society violate this basic concept.

How come we don't use it as a baseline for Aikido?

How is it we are conditioned by the education of our society and adhere to this concept but no one seems to talk about it?

What is even more interesting is that this concept not only explains behavior for the human conditon, but explains the developement of individuals ideas about freedom and rights.

What do you think?

Compare your Aikido training, or conditioning to the life experiences or conditoning and see how they apply to this simple concept?
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Old 10-12-2003, 11:48 AM   #2
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"Danger to self or others" applies to the concept of risk assessment primarily for suicide or homocide. It allows the breach of confidentiality to report reasonable suspicion of child abuse, elder abuse, or violence. Community safety takes priority of individual rights and protection.

Its a professional judgement call. Few people have the training or experience to apply thise cirteria of intent to commit. Most of our laws only can act after the fact when a actual crime has been committed.

As we have learned, pre-emptive strikes are not accepted well by people who have only a positive views of human intent and behavior.

Yet in Aikido, when we see the inhalation, and chambering signalling the intent to attack, we can enter and blend by taking the initiative.

this is not a "basic concept" but a very advanced sophisticated application of trained perceptions.

Lynn Seiser PhD
Yondan Aikido & FMA/JKD
We do not rise to the level of our expectations, but fall to the level of our training. Train well. KWATZ!
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Old 10-12-2003, 01:25 PM   #3
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I'm not seeing a direct question, could you please rephrase to make it more direct? Word it like I'm a two-year-old.



Phillip Johnson
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Old 10-14-2003, 01:38 AM   #4
Lan Powers
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Dumb it down to one -and-a-half for me, please.


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