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Old 10-06-2003, 02:13 AM   #26
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While many Aikido techniques do favor "with the joint" movement, not all of them do. Quite a few Aikido techniques go against the joint (hijijime (elbow lock/throw), sankyo (arm twisted), reverse sankyo (arm straight), and a few of the kansetsu (pins)).

Most of Segal's movie techniques are Aikido (except the odd kick or punch, which are assumingly goju-ryu Karate (really atemi is atemi though)).

His parrying/opening movements are all based on the movements of the Aiki-ken -- check out some of his teachers (such as Seiseki Abe) and you'll notice quit a bit of familiarity.

Certainly they were all categorized as Jujutsu originally (Daito-ryu Jujutsu I'll even wager ), but they are Aikido now!

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Old 10-07-2003, 10:22 PM   #27
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I wear this wrist watch. I notice that whenever I need to know the time, I can turn my wrist to look at the face.

When someone applies sankyo, the wrist also turns. It is not the 360 degree, Linda Blair head spin of The Exorcist, but it does move around within certain limits.

Like Peter noted, aikido does apply stress to the joints. But the stress comes when the nage pushes the uke's joint past its normal limits. Therefore, you take ukemi.

I can think of one kokyu-nage that uses a lock on the elbow. But even there, the lock is used to maintain the lead, no real pressure is put on the elbow itself.

I'm also thinking that you would go against the joint in a technique if your style was closer to ju-jitsu or aiki-jitsu.

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Old 10-10-2003, 01:00 AM   #28
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When I tell people I practice the same martial art that Steven Seagal does, their eyes get big, and they back away from me.

I'm embarrassed to admit that I kind of like it.

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