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Old 09-16-2003, 05:54 AM   #1
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An Aikidoka's mane.

I have waist long hair and it's getting a bit of pain to manage on the mat. Cutting it is not really an option -- I like it as it is. So finding some intresting and convient way of getting it out of the way would be good.

Before, I would just fold it and put it into a pony-tail. It did look as if if I had a top knot at times. However, even with the fold, I have too much of a lengh for it to be practical.

Anyone has any advice?

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Old 09-16-2003, 07:07 AM   #2
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Wear a swimming cap.... tee hee

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Old 09-16-2003, 07:32 AM   #3
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Hey Yann,

First, I would suggest cutting as much as you can live with. My hair went almost to my waist when I started Aikido, but now I usually keep it trimmed to just past my shoulder blades.

Secondly, I would suggest getting corn-rows or braids. It helps prevent breakage and keeps your hair out of your face.

Thirdly, for techniques like Shihonage I would suggest tucking your hair into your gi. My hair somtimes get tangled in with uke's elbow with that technique.

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Old 09-16-2003, 09:53 AM   #4
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Chris,

Swimming cap => sweat => bursting => ... bad mental image.

*shivers*

;>

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Old 09-16-2003, 11:09 AM   #5
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Do a web search for tenegui. It's the head towel that kendo practitioners wear under their helmet.

Bronson

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Old 09-16-2003, 11:17 AM   #6
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Hair net and pretend you work in a street "drugs factory" if any takes the michael - if you think long hair is a problem I saw one poor sod with a beautiful long beard who actually stood on it when coming out of ukemi, we were suitably sympathetic...
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Old 09-16-2003, 11:50 AM   #7
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Makes me glad that I recently got a new crewcut from having my hair from half way down my back...!

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Old 09-16-2003, 12:19 PM   #8
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Try a French Braid and tuck the hanging braid back up under the braid against the head. I can be secured with an elastic at the base of the braid.
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Old 09-17-2003, 04:19 AM   #9
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Quote:
Jessica Dalton (jdalton51) wrote:
I can be secured with an elastic at the base of the braid.
Is this a special type of pin that only works on you?

Sorry I couldn't resist

Bronson

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Old 09-17-2003, 04:28 AM   #10
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Tonight, I'll try the braid and see what can be done so that I don't get it digging into my back on ushiro ukemi.

I like the idea of the tenegui and will investigate further.

Thanks to everyone. I'll let you know what worked or not.

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Old 09-17-2003, 04:35 AM   #11
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Are headbands considered appropriate attire for aikidoka? I've got a hair issue too, but its only shoulder length, and I'd like something to keep the sweat off my eyes. I haven't seen any headband wearers around...wondered if there was a taboo or something.

Thanks all!

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Old 09-17-2003, 04:57 AM   #12
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As with everything else, ask sensei first. I certaily don't see a problem with it and I have seen people use some hairbands before.

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Old 09-17-2003, 02:44 PM   #13
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Spelling correction, it's tenugui not tenegui. I found sites with both but I found better sites with tenugui.

See here,here, here and here. There are a lot more sites, I just grabbed these 'cause they were in english with a decent selection.

Go here to learn how to fold/wear it.

Go here for a fun picture series of Saito Sensei showing 12 possible uses for tenugui.

Best,

Bronson

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Old 09-17-2003, 04:06 PM   #14
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Is this a special type of pin that only works on you?
It's the special "step on Jess' hair while she's down" pin.

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Old 09-17-2003, 10:19 PM   #15
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Hey I've done that pin! Although usually by accident

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Old 09-18-2003, 01:49 AM   #16
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Re: An Aikidoka's mane.

I have dreadlocks, and when I finaly start aikido I'm planning on talking to the sensei about being allowed to wear a Tam. (sorta like an oversized wool beanie)

If it's coming down to a safty issue, I'm sure your sensei would make an exception on uniform and allow you to wear a hat of some sort.
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Old 09-18-2003, 04:42 AM   #17
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Last night, I had my hair braided by my girlfreind. She braided it from the crown of my head till the tip. It was then folded into a knote held by a band.

It kept my hair out of the way.

It held through two hours of kote gaeshi.

I think this worked remarkably well. All I have to do now is to learn how to do it myself!

Bronson, thanks for all the links. I shall try to use that one as well and see which one is the best. I'll continue to post reports.

Thanks everyone.

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Old 09-18-2003, 05:41 PM   #18
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I don't see how wearing a tenugui would keep your hair in place or even stay on your head during aikido if worn the way we do in kendo. Being inside your helmet is what keeps it in place, where it's only real purpose is as a removable and, hence, washable liner.

Besides, why spend the money on an imported towel?

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Old 09-19-2003, 12:20 AM   #19
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Besides, why spend the money on an imported towel?
They look nice. That said if it were me I'd probably just go down to the local truck stop and buy one of those do-rag bandanas that are already sewn into head covers with the little ties at the back.

But I'm cheap (and bald)

Bronson

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Old 09-19-2003, 09:07 AM   #20
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I have heard rumors of a Korean martial art that utilizes the long braid of hair as a whip of sorts........or was that just a bad kung fu movie? :0
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Old 03-20-2004, 04:07 AM   #21
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Quote:
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Go here for a fun picture series of Saito Sensei showing 12 possible uses for tenugui.
That link does not work. The same as this one, maybe?
http://takemusu.org/patsensei/ss/tenugui.htm
The pictures are really small, though.

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Old 03-20-2004, 08:17 AM   #22
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Do a queue -- a single Chinese-style braid down the back, like Chow Yun Fat in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Tuck into the gi, I guess, but be careful when you do the rolls!
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Old 03-20-2004, 11:27 AM   #23
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What Jess said. It keeps it out of the way, it looks *hot* and it'll give your hair some waves when you take it out.

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Old 03-20-2004, 03:08 PM   #24
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I had to give up and cut my hair in order to train. Seems my scalp is really sensitive, and putting my hair back into anything gives me pain and headaches. Now I let it grow out just until it gets sat upon twice during kneeling pins, then I know its time to get it cut again!

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Old 03-20-2004, 06:11 PM   #25
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Headbands and sweatbands are totally OK. I wear them all the time, keeps the hair off of my face and sweat out of my eyes.

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