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Old 08-10-2006, 01:52 AM   #126
Yann Golanski
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Re: aikido and competition

Sean Orchard wrote:
I like that view of things too, and the etymology is correct, afaik.

The "com" part of the word is the same, and means "together"

In "companion", the second part is from "panis" meaning bread - a companion is someone you share bread with.
The French copain (mate, friend, originally slang now moving into common parlance) has the same root. The origine, as far as I know, comes from lower class backgrounds. Bread was used as a plate and food put on it. To share your bread, you were effectively eating from the same plate.

Sean Orchard wrote:
Its all latin, by the way.
There's a good etymological dictionary online here:
Latin and classics in general are much under rated and it's a shame. Anyone should read Gaius Julius Ceasar and Cicero. Nescire quid antea quam natus sis accideret id est semper puerum esse - quid enim est aetas hominis nisi memoria rerum nostrarum cum superiorum aetate contexerit

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Old 08-10-2006, 04:19 AM   #127
Mark Freeman
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Re: aikido and competition

Mark Walsh wrote:
Python warped my fragile young mind growing up :-)
You and many others of us Mark, it seems that there may be some tenuous connection between this mind warping and the later take up of aikido

personally I think if we could find a 'lapgogh' dojo we'd all be doing that


p.s. for those unaware of 'lapgogh' it is a welsh martial art where you walk up to people and hit them before they think of hitting you! Created by the pythons of course.

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Old 08-10-2006, 10:24 AM   #128
Mark Uttech
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Re: aikido and competition

Aikido tradition indeed does have its own 'lapgogh' expressed by "katsuhayabi" created by O'Sensei.
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:40 AM   #129
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Re: aikido and competition

Erick Mead wrote:
"It's getting-hit-on-the-head lessons in here."
But remember when uke feeds shomenuchi to go "Waaa!"

I have no idea how to get back on topic from that.
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:43 AM   #130
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Re: aikido and competition

Mark Uttech wrote:
Aikido tradition indeed does have its own 'lapgogh' expressed by "katsuhayabi" created by O'Sensei.
Michael Palin (I think) once said he was amazed to learn when things he and the other Pythons came up with as jokes actually happened. This another example, the one he thought of being the Kamikaze Scotsmen and their resemblance to the medieval Assasins.

Of course, that now leads me to wonder about the sketch where the wrestler is fighting .... himself. It's in the Live at the Hollywood Bowl movie, IIRC.
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