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Old 07-04-2003, 07:08 AM   #1
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Koryu and Modern Budo

I was wondering how the Koryu systems compare to the modern Budo, not just Aikido, but also Karate and Judo.

As well as techniques, how have the philosophys and principles evolved?

I know this is a very board question, but anything of relavences would be great...

Cheers in advance.

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Old 07-04-2003, 07:18 AM   #2
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A good start to answer these questions would be to read Donn Draeger's 3 vol set on Classical Budo, Classical Bujutsu and Modern Budo. Just about everything you would want to know and then some.

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Old 07-04-2003, 09:08 AM   #3
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Draeger's stuff is good.

To get another, and perhaps updated, viewpoint, check out any of Dr. Karl Friday's work.

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Old 07-04-2003, 11:02 AM   #4
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Good advice. You would do well to also add the three books that Diane and Meik Skoss have made available through Koryu Books. Ellis Amdur's last book is also a valuable resource for information about Japanese koryu.

You can find all of these books at Koryubooks.com

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Old 07-04-2003, 07:41 PM   #5
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Another Suggestion

One additional suggestion would be Serge Mol's Clasical Fighting Arts of Japan: A Complete Guide to Koryu Jujutsu. This might be of great interest to Aikido people as it focuses on jujutsu.

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Old 07-04-2003, 09:35 PM   #6
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I second the recommendation of Serge Mol's book because it clearly explains what Oshikiuchi might have been. This is the art that strongly influenced Sokaku Takeda's Daito Ryu which then influenced Morihei Ueshiba in the creation of Aikido.

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Old 07-05-2003, 03:36 PM   #7
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And I'll second the recommendation for Ellis Amdur's new book, Old School.

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Old 07-06-2003, 05:21 AM   #8
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Thanks, I've managed to some of those on Amazon.co.uk.

Cheers for the advice.

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