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Old 06-02-2003, 09:22 PM   #26
Lan Powers
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All caps are VERY annoying.

Lan

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Old 06-02-2003, 09:50 PM   #27
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Chris Vaden (aikicougar) wrote:
Actually yes and no. I Japan tattoo artistry was an art form. It was passed on from generation to generation. Then for some reason, not sure why, it was outlawed in japan. That's when the yakuza began getting them as a sign of rebellion and because it was illegal. Hence tougher.
Hey Chis - tattoos have a long tradition across several social classes. Samurai had them, yaks and laborers. When was it outlawed in Japan - if it was done in Tokugawa times I'ld love to know why. They passed some strange laws for (when they gave reasons) some equally strange reasons.

yeah and Daniell - PLEASE DON'T USE ALL CAPS. It feels like you are shouting.

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Don't have a tattoo but have seen a few he would't mind having.

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Old 06-02-2003, 10:27 PM   #28
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Hi Daniel,

Can you please stop posting in all capitalized letters? Thank you.

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Old 06-03-2003, 11:34 AM   #29
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I have some tats, including "ai ki" on my left triceps and "bu do" on my right triceps. Got them a year ago and have been training in aikido for almost five years now. I totally love them; it is an expression, not of any accomplishment on my part, but of my personal dedication and my path.

Also agree with Daniel, in that anyone enslaved by other people's prejudices can expect to feel bad about the decision from time to time. Since I did not get them to please anyone or to acquire validation from anyone, all of the poo-poo-ing I might encounter is just water off a duck's back, to me.

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We both had an Aikido instructor that was also an old Navy man. He had a tattoo of a roster hanging by a rope on his calf just below the knee. He would go in to a bar and make an outrageous clam regarding his physical attributes and when others would scoff and lay their money down he would life his pant leg show them the tattoo take the money and hope the fight was not going to be to long. I sure miss him.
Now that is hilarious! Clearly a visionary application of the tattoo artform!

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Old 06-03-2003, 11:50 AM   #30
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Jessie, thanks for your response to the question at hand and not the caps that it was written in. I was trying to send a message across. It is good that we are reading the same book and on the same chapter so to speak/aiki mind set. Thanks again.
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Old 06-03-2003, 12:06 PM   #31
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Yeah well we need to stick together, we heathen, pagan, noncommittal, fly-by-night gang-banging weak and unworthy defilers of all that is moral and holy.

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Old 06-03-2003, 12:46 PM   #32
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My tattoos signify notable events in my life. The fact that these events happened will never change. So they will never "go out of style" for me. The fact that others may not know why I have them, or what they signify means absolutely nothing to me. I am not saying that I don't have any ego and am not proud of them. Good, bad or indifferent, I am. To me they are beautiful, and I look forward to getting more when it is appropriate. I just hope it is not for a similar reason why I got my last one. It is a design of an hour-glass with wings and a sickle in memory of my parents passing recently.

As far as Aikido related tats; I have the Hokusai wave on my right arm, and the circle, triangle, square symbol that is associated with Aikido incorporated into an American Native design arm band on my other arm.

Got ink?

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Old 06-03-2003, 12:56 PM   #33
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Love it!

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Old 06-04-2003, 04:48 AM   #34
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There is only one difference b/w people with and without tattoos -- only non-tattooed people care if you have one.
Hi Jesse,

Perhaps it is my interpretation, but the saying goes....."There is only one difference betwen tattooed people and non-tattooed people...... tattooed people don't care if your not tattooed".

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Rob


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Old 06-04-2003, 10:22 AM   #35
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LOL, your interpretation in certainly correct. But I wrote it the way it's written on the wall at Slave to the Needle, Seattle's premier tattoo parlor.

My version is correct too, as we can see from some posts earlier in this thread.

If you want to get technical, then only SOME non-tattooed people care....

Last edited by Jesse Lee : 06-04-2003 at 10:24 AM.

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Old 06-04-2003, 01:36 PM   #36
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Hi all

Well to answer your question Zach I have the

Kanji for Ki on my left leg . It prety much takes up the whole space between my ankle and

knee.

I found it in Saotome Sensei's book Aikido and the Harmony of nature . I plan on getting another one I'm just in the process of figuring out which one I want .

like my Brother say's ( can't get just one !)

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Old 06-05-2003, 01:04 AM   #37
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Jesse Lee wrote:
LOL, your interpretation in certainly correct. But I wrote it the way it's written on the wall at Slave to the Needle, Seattle's premier tattoo parlor.

My version is correct too, as we can see from some posts earlier in this thread.

If you want to get technical, then only SOME non-tattooed people care....
I didn't mean to get all techy, but since you mentioned it....yeah..SOME!

Cheers

Rob

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Old 06-05-2003, 10:06 PM   #38
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One guy I train with has the kanji for "Masa Katsu Agatsu/True Victory is Self-Victory" in blue down the side of one arm.
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Old 06-06-2003, 01:33 AM   #39
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One guy I train with has the kanji for "Masa Katsu Agatsu/True Victory is Self-Victory" in blue down the side of one arm.
I figured you were sneaking an occasional peak at the guys when they were changing into their gi's. The holding the hand to the eyes was just a ruse.

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Old 06-06-2003, 05:39 AM   #40
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I figured you were sneaking an occasional peak at the guys when they were changing into their gi's. The holding the hand to the eyes was just a ruse.

Kelly
Oh, I've seen worse --- you should see where our Sensei has HIS tattoo! Just kidding!
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Old 06-06-2003, 03:28 PM   #41
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my sensei said that kanji was the brutal aikido way. and very unripe.
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Old 06-09-2003, 03:10 PM   #42
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Well... talk about all of these cool tatoo's is just dandy, anyone care to post them?

I am thinking about getting a tatoo eventually, aiki related. I'd really like to see what you guys have come up with.

PICTURES!

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Old 06-09-2003, 11:10 PM   #43
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I am not 100% sure but I heard that having a tattoo means something in Japan, something like you belong to a gang or some group or something.
It still does. I have a completely meaningless tattoo (a Maori-looking anklet around my left ankle). Going to any onsen (hot spring) in Hakone or anywhere else in Japan is likely to cause raised eyebrows and glances in my direction. I've only been asked directly once if I have Yakuza affiliation, and that was in the street in Yokosuka where I live.

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Old 12-18-2004, 11:07 AM   #44
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Re: tattoos

Have "Masakatsu Agatsu" in kanji down the outside of my right thigh. Planned it for aaaaages, just got it today. I have a big muscular lower body which kinda helps it to look good I think... don't think it'd have gone so well elsewhere on my body where I'm of pretty average build, though. But as it is, where it is... I like it

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Old 12-18-2004, 12:05 PM   #45
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Re: tattoos

I have 10 tats but only 2 are actually aikido related. I have the kanji for aikido, as written by O Sensei on my chest and last week went to get a piece on my arm that covers my entire shoulder cap of my dojo logo. I felt that after I've been involved in the art for 15 years I could stand to have a little aiki-ink. My other tats are special to me in their own way, and I don't regret getting any of them. I keep them where I can hide them if I choose to with a t-shirt and jeans because I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up...... whenever that may be.

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Old 12-18-2004, 03:13 PM   #46
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Re: tattoos

I have a dragon on my right calf, done while sober and on R&R in Okinawa in 1965. The dragon to some extent signifies good fortune and that has been my experience. I had the poor creature redone in 1996 as he was becoming as worn as I was. He has earned his keep over the years as I have the same number of holes in my body as I was born with.

The same night my buddy had a spider covered over with a rose and banner with his initials. The rose was just at the height of his boot top on the inside of his ankle. As we came out of the shop, a carload of knuckleheads drove by and threw fireworks at us (New Year's Eve activities) and we hit the deck. Dave landed in a benjo (sewer ditch). When we got back to Chu Lai, Dave's tattoo was infected and he ended up with a crippled looking spider crawling out of a wilted rose. I told him that a dragon would bring him good luck.............but he just HAD to have a rose.

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Old 12-19-2004, 03:37 AM   #47
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Re: tattoos

I have often thought about getting a tattoo of the Lithuanian crest, which is a knight on a horse (not aikido related), on my left bicep but I decided that I would just think about it for a few years, and if I still liked it later, then maybe My jury is still out on that and as yet, I am still un-inked. Back when I was in High School, I thought it would be goofy and cool to get a ring of whales around my arm, I am glad that I didn't have the guts to do that! For future tattoo ideas, I think I will keep a one or two year waiting period, just to be "sure" .

As for Kanji or other foreign languages, a friend of a friend (yes, I know, far removed) supposedly got a tattoo in either Kanji or Chinese. She had intended to get the symbol for the word "Whole" or "Entire." She apparently did bad research and ended up with one that said "Hole." So if I ever do get anything, I plan to be REALLY careful!
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Old 12-19-2004, 09:04 AM   #48
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Re: tattoos

I' m planning to get a flamingo on my ankle when I graduate next spring!

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Old 12-19-2004, 12:06 PM   #49
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Re: tattoos

A student I hadn't met before went at me open-handed, revealing beautiful henna eye patterns on the palms of both hands. I must say, it was a martial success--she was able to do fine things with my startle reaction.

I'm very hairy, which has always discouraged me from getting a tattoo. Also never yet found the design that cries out "this is it." I like them on other people, though.

Mary Kaye
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Old 12-19-2004, 02:08 PM   #50
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At the risk of pissing folks off here I go again!

....where and when I was brought up observation told me and a hard ass DI taught me (when I wanted to join some guys and get a tattoo that said " Death Before Dishonor") that when a person did not hold a cretin quality they desired on the inside they had printed on the outside....
Oddly enough, all four of my DI's had tats. Most were USMC related, as are my two, but no one has ever told me that I lack the qualities of a Marine because I display those qualities with pride.

I don't know about the past, but I was taught "Once a Marine, Always a Marine" and once you cross the Parade Deck on graduation day, nothing you nor anyone else can do will make you cease to be so. Least of all get a tattoo.

Please forgive me if I have taken this the wrong way. I am very proud of my accomplishments in the Corps and while I display my tattoos with pride, both are on my upper arm/shoulder area, carefully positioned to be covered with a short sleeve t-shirt, tats are not always appropriate for certain positions. My two cents.
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