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Old 05-09-2003, 10:44 AM   #1
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a challenge

Would any of you accept a challenge made to you from someone of a different martial art? I mean in a clean environment (a dojo or ring), and not done out of malice. I mean the person challenging you isn't grunting, but polite---not for reputation's sake.

btw, i am not challenging anyone here. I am just curious about the people in aikido.

<<<and if you say no, please do not give me a long answer about honor and how this is wrong and X,Y,Z.>>>

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Old 05-09-2003, 10:47 AM   #2
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Would any of you accept a challenge made to you from someone of a different martial art?
Sure.
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Old 05-09-2003, 10:53 AM   #3
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Re: a challenge

No

Mom taught me better than to fight needlessly.
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Old 05-09-2003, 11:50 AM   #4
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I try to do things if they sound like fun and not to do them if they don't sound like fun. Thus, a lot would depend on who issued the challenge and how much I liked them, enjoyed their company, and trusted them.

I think it'd be pretty important to me to have a clear sense of what I hoped to learn from this and what my goals were.

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Old 05-09-2003, 12:00 PM   #5
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I try to do things if they sound like fun and not to do them if they don't sound like fun. Thus, a lot would depend on who issued the challenge and how much I liked them, enjoyed their company, and trusted them.

I think it'd be pretty important to me to have a clear sense of what I hoped to learn from this and what my goals were.

Yours in Aiki
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Old 05-09-2003, 12:15 PM   #6
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That would depend on who issued the challenge and why.

If they could not receive technique then no, as the intesity of the attack sets the intensity of the response. I know I can take a punch, but not everyone can take landing on their head!


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Old 05-09-2003, 12:52 PM   #7
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If the challenge was a "dojo busting" thing, then I might consider myself obligated to defend the integrity of the dojo. Barring the success of verbal deescalation. Bowing to the challengers ego etc. having no effect. If the challenger had the intent to harm my dojo mates then I wouldn't hesitate and I would not be nice about it. If the challenge was a "lets see" kind of thing then,no, never. I'm pretty secure about what my aikido can do and how it can be applied. I don't train to fight so there would be no need to "step into the ring".

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Old 05-09-2003, 12:55 PM   #8
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depends on the challenger. if it would be a funny kinda guy and we would have some fun on the mat no problem.
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Old 05-09-2003, 01:28 PM   #9
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I completely agree with Russ. In fact, I have done this on several occasions with people coming in to test me. I have actually gotten a couple really dedicated and Aiki students out of the deal, once they had a small attitude adjustment.

You don't necessarily have to tussle with them to resolve the situation, I just try to draw them into my rhythm and handle it there. It's all about range of effectiveness.

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Old 05-09-2003, 01:32 PM   #10
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Accept a challenge from someone else? Heck, I can't even fend off the guys in my own dojo...
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Old 05-09-2003, 02:07 PM   #11
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I will without hesitation accept a challenge from someone studying ... Tai Chi, Yoga, or perhaps chess.

On second thought, count me out of the chess challenge.

Too dangerous.
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Old 05-09-2003, 03:00 PM   #12
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[BAD TASTE ON]

Yep chess is very dangerous and full of sexual haresment:

King takes queen

Or real sodomy:

King takes bishop

Or real life religion:

Bishop takes bishop

[BAD TASTE OFF]

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Old 05-09-2003, 03:13 PM   #13
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You didn't mention King takes Horse...

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Old 05-09-2003, 03:18 PM   #14
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I certainly would; if a challenge is made with honorable intentions (i.e. for curiosity; friendly competition, the desire to test onesself), then just because it's a 'fight' does not make it a negative thing - rather, a positive chance for learning and exploration. Under those circumstances; if someone were to ask me for such a bout; I personally would be honoured to accept.

Dave

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Old 05-09-2003, 03:23 PM   #15
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I'd do it. Might lose but I'd do it.

Kendo is like star wars and everyone gets to be Darth Vader.
"Luke, I am your sensei"
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Old 05-09-2003, 03:31 PM   #16
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Absolutely. I get to learn something either way.

Exercise and extend your Ki with conviction; feel its awesome power--just smile.
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Old 05-09-2003, 03:55 PM   #17
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I dont think I would, as much as I would like to. I know that Sensei would be disappointed in me if I did so. But, I am all for getting on the mat with other systems and trying stuff out.

"Minimum Effort, Maximum Effciency."
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Old 05-09-2003, 07:32 PM   #18
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I would very much be interested in an "open practice" or "martial art experimentation session" (provided they were safe).

..

Why does it have to be a "challenge?"
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Old 05-09-2003, 08:39 PM   #19
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...bring it on...
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Old 05-09-2003, 09:09 PM   #20
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Challenges? I accept, but only if they buy the beer afterwards.

BTW, Horse takes Queen is kinda bad, too...
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Old 05-10-2003, 02:05 AM   #21
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Yep Horse, but being non-native english speaker I always though the horse shaped chess piece to be called a knight (who can do lots of nasty stuff also of course )

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Old 05-10-2003, 07:09 AM   #22
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Re: a challenge

Quote:
Joseph Connolly (Cyrijl) wrote:
Would any of you accept a challenge made to you from someone of a different martial art?
Sure thing. If we're not out to kill each other, maybe we could both learn sumthin'

Yeah, that'd be cool ;-)
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Old 05-11-2003, 07:33 AM   #23
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Sure! I'd challenge anyone... After I am finished challenging myself (Which should take, oh, 150 more years).

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Old 05-11-2003, 08:04 AM   #24
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Aleksey Sundeyev (shihonage) wrote:
On second thought, count me out of the chess challenge.

Too dangerous.
I agree! Chesspieces can be effective weapons. Especially if you have an expensive set, since the pieces would be heavy.

Not to mention I once got electrocuted by an electronic chess game...
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Old 05-12-2003, 06:04 AM   #25
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thank you for all of your great posts...i meant challenge as in something friendly, not as some ego driven challenge.

having experienced a few martial arts, (aikido on of them), i feel as though one could greatly improve by seeing 'the other side' of an engagement in a safe environment.

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