Welcome to AikiWeb Aikido Information
AikiWeb: The Source for Aikido Information
AikiWeb's principal purpose is to serve the Internet community as a repository and dissemination point for aikido information.

Sections
home
aikido articles
columns

Discussions
forums
aikiblogs

Databases
dojo search
seminars
image gallery
supplies
links directory

Reviews
book reviews
video reviews
dvd reviews
equip. reviews

News
submit
archive

Miscellaneous
newsletter
rss feeds
polls
about

Follow us on



Home > AikiWeb Aikido Forums
Go Back   AikiWeb Aikido Forums > Techniques

Hello and thank you for visiting AikiWeb, the world's most active online Aikido community! This site is home to over 22,000 aikido practitioners from around the world and covers a wide range of aikido topics including techniques, philosophy, history, humor, beginner issues, the marketplace, and more.

If you wish to join in the discussions or use the other advanced features available, you will need to register first. Registration is absolutely free and takes only a few minutes to complete so sign up today!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-19-2003, 10:21 AM   #1
ian
 
ian's Avatar
Dojo: University of Ulster, Coleriane
Location: Northern Ireland
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 1,654
Offline
atemis pt2

I found the last thread on atemis to be excellent. However, to focus on a particular area a little more, I am interested, how do you lot teach or get taught atemi? I have noticed that many high graded people do not teach atemi, although when you see them do technique their fist is always in your face!

main questions:

1. is atemi integrated into your normal technique?
2. do you do them all the time
3. does atemi interfere with blending (due to the motion stopping)
4. Do you strike vital points (particular killing areas) during your atemis.
5. Do you allow uke to do atemis during the technique if he is able?
6. Do you think you would naturally use atemis if attacked?

Ian
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 10:43 AM   #2
ian
 
ian's Avatar
Dojo: University of Ulster, Coleriane
Location: Northern Ireland
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 1,654
Offline
P.S. please note the questions are different from the original thread! (so no need for repeated info). Also, when I say is atemi integrated into your normal technique I mean do you teach atemi seperate (as strikes), do you do set forms of atemi (which fit into many techniques nicely - as I've seen Saito do), or do you just do atemis that come to hand within the techniques.

Cheers

---understanding aikido is understanding the training method---
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:00 PM   #3
aikidoc
Dojo: Aikido of Midland
Location: Midland Texas
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 1,652
United_States
Offline
1. is atemi integrated into your normal technique?

Absolutely.

2. do you do them all the time

Yes.

3. does atemi interfere with blending (due to the motion stopping)

No. We practice to show how to integrate the atemi without interfering with the flow of the technique.

4. Do you strike vital points (particular killing areas) during your atemis.

No. We stop any blows to vital areas at the level of the skin or gi. We do not follow through with potentially dangerous blows.

5. Do you allow uke to do atemis during the technique if he is able?

Uke has a responsibility to point out nage's suki (openings) as well.

6. Do you think you would naturally use atemis if attacked?

Absolutely, if I want to apply an aikido technique.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:15 PM   #4
Lyle Bogin
Dojo: Shin Budo Kai
Location: Manhattan
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 588
United_States
Offline
1) Yes.

2) I do not use atemi in my technique unless I have gotten to know my partner a bit. Using strikes sometimes reminds people of scenarios in other martial arts they studied, and can lead to a sudden sparring match.

3) It does effect the rhythm and can change uke's posture. But it does not have to disturb the flow.

4) Always.

5) Yes. Sometimes I have no choice. Getting a polite fist in the nose is a good way to be reminded to take the guys balance and keep it . Sometimes it's aggravating, but mostly its very helpful.

6) I don't have to think, I know I do.

"The martial arts progress from the complex to the simple."
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2003, 11:42 AM   #5
kensparrow
Dojo: Methuen Aikido
Location: Massachusetts
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 97
Offline
1. is atemi integrated into your normal technique?

Yes.

2. do you do them all the time

Yes, but the intensity depends on who I'm working with.

3. does atemi interfere with blending (due to the motion stopping)

Only if I choose the wrong atemi.

4. Do you strike vital points (particular killing areas) during your atemis.

Sometimes.

5. Do you allow uke to do atemis during the technique if he is able?

How can I stop him? Seriously, I do prefer if uke shows me my openings and a well placed atemi is usually the most efficient way to do that.

6. Do you think you would naturally use atemis if attacked?

Absolutely. No question at all.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2003, 10:43 PM   #6
PhilJ
 
PhilJ's Avatar
Dojo: Aikido Bukou
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 240
Offline
Re: atemis pt2

1. is atemi integrated into your normal technique?

- Most of the time, yes, though I don't use them if the energy is "right".

2. do you do them all the time

- No, only as necessary, but I still consider it a vital part of learning about technique and energy.

3. does atemi interfere with blending (due to the motion stopping)

- If I understand this question right: It might, if I want to redirect away from other hazards like concrete, walls, uke's buddies.

4. Do you strike vital points (particular killing areas) during your atemis.

- I have no interest in learning "how to kill", just how to protect myself.

5. Do you allow uke to do atemis during the technique if he is able?

- Only if I know it's coming, or, while in jiyu-waza, randori, henka-waza... I don't want beginners to be surprised, just concentrate on doing the prescribed technique.

6. Do you think you would naturally use atemis if attacked?

- Most likely... I find atemi immensely useful for shodo-o-seisu (control first move). A quick punch to the liver (no contact, but must be 110% believable) does wonders for aborting uke's shomenuchi strike.

*Phil

Phillip Johnson
Enso Aikido Dojo, Burnsville, MN
An Aikido Bukou Dojo
http://www.aikidobukou.com
  Reply With Quote

Please visit our sponsor:

AikiWeb Sponsored Links - Place your Aikido link here for only $10!



Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Value of atemi DustinAcuff Techniques 67 06-08-2007 08:35 AM
Atemi George S. Ledyard Techniques 35 04-11-2007 07:42 AM
old ukes being hard Chocolateuke Training 27 03-24-2002 08:27 AM
not more atemis! - to block or not? ian Techniques 28 10-29-2000 10:05 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:37 PM.



vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2014 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited
----------
Copyright 1997-2014 AikiWeb and its Authors, All Rights Reserved.
----------
For questions and comments about this website:
Send E-mail
plainlaid-picaresque outchasing-protistan explicantia-altarage seaford-stellionate