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Old 03-06-2003, 06:59 AM   #1
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who looks most like Ueshiba?

I don't mean who's got a goaty and a bald head.

When you watch instructors doing aikido you can see that they all have a slightly different style and way of doing things. Also, people have argued that each uchideschi took a little of what Ueshiba taught, though they are evidently quite different.

What I want to know is, examining the video and picture footage of Ueshiba, who do you believe looks to be doing aikido most similar to Ueshiba? (regardless of your view of effectiveness)
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Old 03-06-2003, 07:13 AM   #2
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As I haven't any direct experience with this, I can only answer from what my teacher has said, and that is he thought that Kurita Shihan of Mexico looked most similar in movement.
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Old 03-06-2003, 07:54 AM   #3
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I "see" O'Sensei often in Saotome Sensei. I could never describe what it is - but I - let's just say - I "recognize" certain ways he moves and holds himself to be exactly like the videos of O'Sensei.
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Old 03-06-2003, 09:30 AM   #4
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well...the one who probably looks most like o'sensei is Koichi Tohei sensei.

they say he developed the same quality of relaxation and ki like ueshiba

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Old 03-06-2003, 09:47 AM   #5
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Ian Dodkins wrote:
...who do you believe looks to be doing aikido most similar to Ueshiba?
I've read that the person who most resembled Osensei--some credit him as cofounder of aikido--is his cousin, Inoue Noriaki.

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Old 03-06-2003, 09:50 AM   #6
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I would have to say Koichi Tohei. From the videos of him, and the Founder, plus seeing him in person. His relaxed movement looks very much like O' Sensei.

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Old 03-06-2003, 10:10 AM   #7
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Inoue Noriaki

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I've read that the person who most resembled Osensei--some credit him as cofounder of aikido--is his cousin, Inoue Noriaki.
As usual Don is spot on. Inoue Sensei was probably O-Sensei's closest student in many ways. In terms of hours spent training together I don't think anyone exceeded Inoue Sensei.

Also, Inoue Sensei was very much an Omotokyo believer and his Aikido reflects that in the same way that O-sensei's did. That is not the case with many of the other Deshi.

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Old 03-06-2003, 10:11 AM   #8
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I guess it depends a lot on what you look for. I believe that many people have been pointing at the late Saito sensei as one who taught a form of aikido very much alike the one Osensei taught at a cetain time during his life, but still no one claims that Saito was the spitting image of Osensei.

Interestingly enough no one has yet mentioned the current doshu. I have never seen anything but small mpeg-snippets of him nor his father or Osensei, but One could think that aikido would be passed on from father to son with perhaps a little more care and dilligence than to someone else. Still... what do I know

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Old 03-06-2003, 01:26 PM   #9
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I have absolutely no idea, since I've never seen Morihei Ueshiba O Sensei except on a few old films. According to our dojo cho, who trained at Aikikai Hombu dojo over forty years ago, no one was like him.

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Old 03-06-2003, 02:41 PM   #10
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From the very little I've seen of him on video I think the late Kisaburo Osawa Shihan moved like O'sensei. (But slower....)
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Old 03-06-2003, 08:00 PM   #11
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I have a video of Hikitsuchi Michio Sensei, and I think his aikido is very similar to Osensei's, though I have the feeling it is more a conscious effort by Hikitsuchi to emulate O sensei's movements than a natural resemblance.
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Old 03-18-2003, 08:58 AM   #12
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Thanks for the replies - maybe you are right about Tohei, diffinately more similar to Ueshiba than any others I can bring to mind. Is there any video footage of Inoue? I've never seen him before.

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Old 03-18-2003, 11:42 AM   #13
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Jack Poole Sensei is pretty close , dont you agree?
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Old 03-18-2003, 12:16 PM   #14
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I believe your question should ask, at what point in his life did someone look like Ueshiba O-Sensei. There were several M. Ueshibas as he refined and codified his art. Key people left at a point in time that reflected a Ueshiba of the time.

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Old 03-19-2003, 02:24 AM   #15
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I remember a few years ago, watching a video of Moriteru Ueshiba shortly after watching a video of O Sensei. I sat up halfway through his set saying aloud that his movement looked just like O Sensei's.

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