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Old 01-22-2007, 09:46 AM   #26
Dojo: Exeter Ki Aikido
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Re: What's in a yonkyo?

Nerve pinching can not be the only thing in a yonkyo. I am one of those people whose nerve is very hard to get yet there is still enough in the technique to unbalance me and take me to the mat.
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Old 01-22-2007, 04:29 PM   #27
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Re: What's in a yonkyo?

John Riggs wrote:
Personally, I like to use both the mechanical and the pressure point only I add a complex torque to the wrist to accentuate access to the nerve either via a sankyo or mawashi wrist bend. This seems to expose the nerve or bone-whatever hurts by moving some of the tendons out of the way.
The idea is to pinch the radial nerve against the radius at one of the "access" points...

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Old 02-03-2007, 05:28 AM   #28
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Re: What's in a yonkyo?

Nafis Zahir wrote:
... He showed me how to gain control and cut the person down by using the "sword cutting version" first.
In addition, I might add, you really need to do a lot of Bokken cuts and "ringing" the Bokken handle at the end of your cut. This will give power to the point on your hand that actually applies pressure to the radius bones. People who don't practice weapons generally do not have proper grip for this technique.
Good point.
I have only ever seen this Yonkyo type technique in Aikido, and in my opinion it comes from sword training ... almost as if someone with a strong sword cutting technique once tried it on an arm and got good results . "Hey this works!".
Sword cutting practice can give surprising strength for this one technique.

(Caveat : I practice cutting, but I'd still avoid trying Yonkyo in a real fight : I just don't trust it to work)
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