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Old 02-11-2018, 12:01 PM   #26
Demetrio Cereijo
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Re: AIKIDO - The way that doesn't work! - The Series

B-movie Aikido + crappling.

I'm not sure if these guys are delusional or trolling.
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:50 PM   #27
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Re: AIKIDO - The way that doesn't work! - The Series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ptIEYM2JPI - munetsuki hijinage or chudantsuki udekimenage
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Old 02-15-2018, 01:58 PM   #28
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Re: AIKIDO - The way that doesn't work! - The Series

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ptIEYM2JPI - munetsuki hijinage or chudantsuki udekimenage
Igor, if you keep posting, can we have your opinion please?

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I'm not sure if these guys are delusional or trolling.
There seems to be an odd market niche for people who cannot leave aikido because they have committed to it as their profession, and now they come up with this type of stuff instead of just moving on.

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Old 02-15-2018, 02:19 PM   #29
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Re: AIKIDO - The way that doesn't work! - The Series

First of all I detest his vulgarity in his presentation. Believe me after years in the Marines I can use a particular four-letter word as a noun, verb, or adjective in dozens of ways. While I have that "skill" I don't exercise it in a public forum. I think a person can convey a good, strong message without all the profanity.

Secondly, his application is simply poorly done. No, it didn't work and that isn't a surprise to me. Done well with an attacker who isn't specifically expecting that response is usually effective.

I will grant that some aikido techniques aren't as effective as others in an actual "combat" situation, but all of this is simply incorrect in my opinion.

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Old 02-15-2018, 03:45 PM   #30
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Igor, if you keep posting, can we have your opinion please?

There seems to be an odd market niche for people who cannot leave aikido because they have committed to it as their profession, and now they come up with this type of stuff instead of just moving on.
With some things I agree, with some things I don't. Happy?
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Old Yesterday, 06:44 AM   #31
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What does happy have to do with it? This guy is not doing aikido...he should just leave it be. If you are going to disparage something you should at least have a good understanding of what it can do. He does not.

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Old Yesterday, 07:33 AM   #32
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What does happy have to do with it? This guy is not doing aikido...he should just leave it be. If you are going to disparage something you should at least have a good understanding of what it can do. He does not.
I meant happy with my answer. What is he doing then if not your general Aikido techniques with some of his "own flavor". Seriously, what is Aikido supposed to be in your mind?
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Old Yesterday, 11:17 AM   #33
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He is not leading. He is using muscle and his language is negative.

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Old Yesterday, 12:55 PM   #34
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The simple way I see it is - Aikido doesn't really have techniques. Jujutsu has techniques. And Jujutsu has aiki-waza, which are learned after you learn the techniques. Judo also has a token 5 aiki-waza in on of its katas. The Way, was to learn the techniques, then learn the aiki-waza, and if you were good, the aiki-waza you learned, in time, would modify the way you performed all the techniques.
Ueshiba junked the techniques, and if he kept some, he performed them like aiki-waza and called it Aikido. Not Jujutsu. Sure, some of the things we do look a bit like techniques, but the aim of all the 'stuff' in Aikido is to develop your aiki. Ueshiba used it that way, I believe.
If you look at nikyo - in Jujutsu it will be done with a kick and/or punch. But our way is to develop the aiki-ness of it and just do the nikyo part. But the reality is, for self-defence, that kick and punch that got junked would be pretty useful. But by practicing nikyo separately, we get to a high level of doing it that if combined with the kick/punch would make it pretty effective. Anyway, the purpose of Aikido is to learn/improve aiki, but without Jujutsu it is pretty ineffective for self-defence. I believe that to practice Aikido for self-defence to be a huge mistake. One day, someone will wake up and listen.

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