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08-25-2016, 02:31 AM
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Dojo: Cagayan Aikido Dojo
Location: Cagayan de Oro City
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At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
advanced ukemi, such as doshu fall, high fall, drop. etc.
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08-25-2016, 03:21 AM
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Dojo: Stockholms Aikidoklubb
Location: Stockholm
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
What is a "doshu fall"? In Sweden there is a general rule that when receiving 3 kyu (and being able to wear the hakama) a practitioner should normally be able to do breakfalls
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08-25-2016, 12:25 PM
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Dojo: Open Sky Aikikai
Location: Durham, NC
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
I had to learn the various Ukemi at the same time as the techniques. No learning koshinage if you can't fall out of koshinage.
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08-25-2016, 06:14 PM
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Dojo: Aikido Yoshinkan Sacramento - Seikeikan Dojo
Location: Orangevale, CA
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
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Peter Gröndahl wrote:
What is a "doshu fall"?
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The end result when Doshu throws you? 
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08-28-2016, 05:45 AM
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Dojo: Cagayan Aikido Dojo
Location: Cagayan de Oro City
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
what do you call that breakfall in your dojos?
at 0.10seconds we call that breakfall, doshu fall in our dojo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiNEkhIZCo0
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08-28-2016, 04:16 PM
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Location: Las Vegas
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
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Jon Christian Tuadles wrote:
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Mostly it's what your sensei named it. Me too and probably most everyone here on this forum never heard of the Doshu fall either.
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"For The Secret That The Warrior Seeks: You Must Know That The Basic Principles Lie In The Study Of The Spirit." - Morihei Ueshiba
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08-29-2016, 01:51 AM
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Dojo: Hildesheimer Aikido Verein
Location: Hildesheim
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
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Jon Christian Tuadles wrote:
what do you call that breakfall in your dojos?
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It is quite common to call it "limp(i.e.dead) leaf" over here.
Ushiro otoshi - like Donovan Waite names it - is the name of a certain technique here.
Last edited by Carsten Möllering : 08-29-2016 at 01:56 AM.
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08-30-2016, 05:26 AM
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Location: Düsseldorf
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
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Rod Lansangan wrote:
Me too and probably most everyone here on this forum never heard of the Doshu fall either.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjgu0GmWi5Y
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08-30-2016, 10:22 AM
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Dojo: Open Sky Aikikai
Location: Durham, NC
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
I think we know what is being referenced here, even though ("gasp") we're all calling it something different or not even naming it.
Still for me the same answer. Receiving technique was taught at the same time as doing the technique all the way through, beyond a couple of very early classes of rolling without any stimuluii. I don't recall being taught this at all; just braced my neck and did a flat back fall in a high momentum moment.
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08-30-2016, 11:57 AM
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
Among other things, I've heard it called "Relax and go Splat"...
However, ukemi works for me.
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09-04-2016, 01:35 PM
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
I was taught in the beginning the different ways of landing on the ground as part of our warm ups prior to practice. Never heard names for them.
In practice Uke was always lead into the fall by Nage and used what landing that was apparent whether it was high, low, a straight drop, a projection into a roll or flying through air.
dps
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09-04-2016, 10:44 PM
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Dojo: Cagayan Aikido Dojo
Location: Cagayan de Oro City
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
the sad part here is that we are only using taekwondo rubber mats. which makes it more difficult to practice these.
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09-05-2016, 10:21 AM
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Dojo: Open Sky Aikikai
Location: Durham, NC
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
I guess invest in a crash mat and some thicker mats, or have people stick to falls that are less fun to watch but are more appropriate for every surface.
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12-29-2016, 02:22 PM
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Dojo: Westminster Tenshinkai Aikido Dojo
Location: Fountain Valley, CA
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
While it is expected that we know how to do a basic break fall we are not forced in terms of the 'intensity' or height. Kind of allowed to go at our own pace until we perform in alignment with where Sensei feels we should be based on our level.
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01-04-2017, 10:31 AM
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Dojo: Berkshire Hills Aikido
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
We have never done high falls. I can do one but why?
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01-04-2017, 11:44 AM
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Location: Massachusetts
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
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Jon Christian Tuadles wrote:
the sad part here is that we are only using taekwondo rubber mats. which makes it more difficult to practice these.
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Then maybe you shouldn't be doing them.
Seriously, what is the point in doing something that you know will be a destructive practice?
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01-05-2017, 02:20 AM
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Dojo: Aikido Klub Tisa - Novi Sad
Location: Novi Sad
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.
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Jon Christian Tuadles wrote:
advanced ukemi, such as doshu fall, high fall, drop. etc.
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If you are referring to yoko ukemi as "high fall" then i would say 4. kyu or second year of practice.
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