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Old 01-28-2014, 02:31 PM   #101
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Re: Banned from Aikido...

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There isn't enough data to answer that question, but here are a few questions that may help you formulate a plan of action:
  • Was there any discussion when you got banned, or had there been any discussion leading up to it?
  • Do you understand the reasons why you were banned? Do you agree with it?
  • If you were to go back, what would change in order for you to remain there -- the dojo's rules/expectations, or your behavior? How would this change happen, and are you okay with it?
Was there any discussion when i got banned? no
do i understand thw reasons why i was banned, do i agree with it? Yes becos i broke every rule in the book by saying that i was going to have a street fight with a young woman, whereas aikido is supposed to be non competetive. also because i mentioned that i was once (nearly) charged with attempted rape, always goes down a scorcher. and someone from another club called up my club to complain. but no i dont think this warrants a ban
if i was to go back what would i change? nothing it was and still is a great club. it has all been a big misunderstanding. but for the time being the ban stands.
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Old 01-28-2014, 03:05 PM   #102
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Re: Banned from Aikido...

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Was there any discussion when i got banned? no
do i understand thw reasons why i was banned, do i agree with it? Yes becos i broke every rule in the book by saying that i was going to have a street fight with a young woman, whereas aikido is supposed to be non competetive. also because i mentioned that i was once (nearly) charged with attempted rape, always goes down a scorcher. and someone from another club called up my club to complain. but no i dont think this warrants a ban
if i was to go back what would i change? nothing it was and still is a great club. it has all been a big misunderstanding. but for the time being the ban stands.
Generally students have to live up to some standards of character and reputability.
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:17 PM   #103
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Re: Banned from Aikido...

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Generally students have to live up to some standards of character and reputability.
Certainly true at any dojo I would want to be a member of.

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Old 01-29-2014, 11:19 AM   #104
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Re: Banned from Aikido...

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Was there any discussion when i got banned? no
do i understand thw reasons why i was banned, do i agree with it? Yes becos i broke every rule in the book by saying that i was going to have a street fight with a young woman, whereas aikido is supposed to be non competetive. also because i mentioned that i was once (nearly) charged with attempted rape, always goes down a scorcher. and someone from another club called up my club to complain. but no i dont think this warrants a ban
if i was to go back what would i change? nothing it was and still is a great club. it has all been a big misunderstanding. but for the time being the ban stands.
Hello John,

I didn't exactly ask "what would you change" if you went back -- I asked what would change (in the dojo's rules, in your behavior, in whatever) that would allow you to remain there and not simply get banned again. This may be simplistic thinking on my part, but it seems like something would have to change or you'd just get the same outcome again. So, what would change?
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:46 AM   #105
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Re: Banned from Aikido...

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Was there any discussion when i got banned? no
do i understand thw reasons why i was banned, do i agree with it? Yes becos i broke every rule in the book by saying that i was going to have a street fight with a young woman, whereas aikido is supposed to be non competetive. also because i mentioned that i was once (nearly) charged with attempted rape, always goes down a scorcher. and someone from another club called up my club to complain. but no i dont think this warrants a ban
if i was to go back what would i change? nothing it was and still is a great club. it has all been a big misunderstanding. but for the time being the ban stands.
Well between attempting to fight a female and you mentioning you were almost charged with rape I can completely understand a ban. Any other things that you didn't mention that may have contributed to the ban? You have to keep in mind that the instructor has to run a safe dojo so those things are a pretty big deal.
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:57 AM   #106
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Re: Banned from Aikido...

Before there's too much tarring ;
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... i mentioned that i was once (nearly) charged with attempted rape, ..:
This can happen to anyone without any blame at all,
don't assume anything about John from it, least of all 'bad character'.
(Unfortunately people just 'knee-jerk' their way through the internet)
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Old 02-03-2014, 01:04 PM   #107
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Before there's too much tarring ;

This can happen to anyone without any blame at all,
don't assume anything about John from it, least of all 'bad character'.
(Unfortunately people just 'knee-jerk' their way through the internet)
Well, throw in a bit of a cheeky attitude about it, warnings from other dojos, and possibly even threatening female members of the dojo with bodily assault and you're well out of knee-jerk territory.
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:17 PM   #108
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Was there any discussion when i got banned? no
do i understand thw reasons why i was banned, do i agree with it? Yes becos i broke every rule in the book by saying that i was going to have a street fight with a young woman, whereas aikido is supposed to be non competetive. also because i mentioned that i was once (nearly) charged with attempted rape, always goes down a scorcher. and someone from another club called up my club to complain. but no i dont think this warrants a ban
if i was to go back what would i change? nothing it was and still is a great club. it has all been a big misunderstanding. but for the time being the ban stands.
This all sounds like an Andy Kaufman joke.

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Old 02-04-2014, 10:45 PM   #109
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This all sounds like an Andy Kaufman joke.

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Old 02-07-2014, 07:23 AM   #110
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Re: Banned from Aikido...

OKay I've been banned for a year. What would change? To allow me to go back? Well I need to let a year pass, and get some medical letters then i should be alright.
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:03 PM   #111
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OKay I've been banned for a year. What would change? To allow me to go back? Well I need to let a year pass, and get some medical letters then i should be alright.
I would suggest keeping the lines of communication open with your sensei while you are out of the dojo. Keep him informed of the actual steps you are actually taking to fix the problems that actually got you bounced.
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