Welcome to AikiWeb Aikido Information
AikiWeb: The Source for Aikido Information
AikiWeb's principal purpose is to serve the Internet community as a repository and dissemination point for aikido information.

Sections
home
aikido articles
columns

Discussions
forums
aikiblogs

Databases
dojo search
seminars
image gallery
supplies
links directory

Reviews
book reviews
video reviews
dvd reviews
equip. reviews

News
submit
archive

Miscellaneous
newsletter
rss feeds
polls
about

Follow us on



Home > AikiWeb Aikido Forums
Go Back   AikiWeb Aikido Forums > Internal Training in Aikido

Hello and thank you for visiting AikiWeb, the world's most active online Aikido community! This site is home to over 22,000 aikido practitioners from around the world and covers a wide range of aikido topics including techniques, philosophy, history, humor, beginner issues, the marketplace, and more.

If you wish to join in the discussions or use the other advanced features available, you will need to register first. Registration is absolutely free and takes only a few minutes to complete so sign up today!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-03-2014, 08:10 AM   #1
Dan Richards
Dojo: Latham Eclectic
Location: NY
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 422
United_States
Offline
Yiquan video for internal training

This video is well presented and a beautiful example of internal training for any aikidoka.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq45azKujKY

Dan Richards
Latham Eclectic
覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧
My ongoing reviews of Shinbudo weapons.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2014, 10:22 AM   #2
ken king
Location: St. Louis, MO
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 43
United_States
Offline
Re: Yiquan video for internal training

Nope, bad video for aikidoka. Especially people with no prior IP experience. Little to no instruction on what to do internally. A lot of talk about hands and dragons, 6 directions mentioned but badly.This stuff really can't be taught by video as the important stuff isn't happening in plain view. The secrets protect themselves, it has to be felt, blah blah blah cryptic IP talk.

Every day, life is training, every day, budo is life
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2014, 10:29 AM   #3
ken king
Location: St. Louis, MO
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 43
United_States
Offline
Re: Yiquan video for internal training

Duplicate post

Every day, life is training, every day, budo is life
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2014, 01:06 PM   #4
fatebass21
 
fatebass21's Avatar
Dojo: Westminster Tenshinkai Aikido Dojo
Location: Fountain Valley, CA
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 153
United_States
Offline
Re: Yiquan video for internal training

Interesting....

Chris Sawyer
Fountain Valley, CA
Tenshinkai Aikido Federation
Training day is every day
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2015, 10:51 PM   #5
Brian Sutton
Location: Roswell Ga.
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 32
United_States
Offline
Re: Yiquan video for internal training

IMO,his shoulders are a little forward not allowing for one of the most important T`ai Ji /Yi Chuan princples of release chest fill out the back. If the chest isn't released, the chi can't sink, if the chi can't sink, the chi can't rise. But to the point of Chinese Internal arts helping with Aikido. Absolutely. They complement each other very nicely.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 07:03 PM   #6
andrew sunter
Dojo: Aikido in Sydney
Location: Sydney
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4
Australia
Offline
Re: Yiquan video for internal training

Quote:
Dan Richards wrote: View Post
This video is well presented and a beautiful example of internal training for any aikidoka.
Hi Dan, I'm wondering what you found helpful in the video?

Andrew Sunter
aikidoinsydney.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 07:34 PM   #7
Rupert Atkinson
 
Rupert Atkinson's Avatar
Dojo: Wherever I am.
Location: South Korea, Yongin
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 828
United Kingdom
Offline
Re: Yiquan video for internal training

I have been doing stuff like this for years by myself and love it. I don't analyse it too much, but do seem to come up with endless variations that just make sense to me on the day. It is an endless journey. There is really not much point explaining stuff as what you do changes with time. I think it to be very useful for whatever martial art you do. Just search ...

  Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2015, 08:36 AM   #8
Erick Mead
 
Erick Mead's Avatar
Dojo: Big Green Drum (W. Florida Aikikai)
Location: West Florida
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,536
United_States
Offline
Re: Yiquan video for internal training

Quote:
Kenneth King wrote: View Post
... Little to no instruction on what to do internally. ....The secrets protect themselves, it has to be felt, blah blah blah cryptic IP talk.
To take this out of the "secrets...blah blah... cryptic" department -- and to point out a relatively accessible "feel" mentioned in the video -- rather straightforwardly at 1:22-1:44 -- it is pointed out that as correct internal structure becomes external movement: "All movement is done as if swimming in the air."

To interact with water in swimming -- particularly in treading water (the closest aquatic thing to zhan zhuang) -- requires a definitively different grasp of internal structure to support movement than what most people operate from when they just move around out of water.

People who have not grasped this necessary alteration of structural support when trying to swim mostly thrash water, ineffectually or at best inefficiently, and, generally, sink in sad bewilderment.

But the physical lesson is DIRECTLY applicable -- people just don't realize that connection and how to adapt it. The dynamics of treading water are closely allied to actual movements in aikido that flow from structure. That provides a much more commonplace and perhaps more relatable way to see this supporting structure driving the mechanics of effective action.

Viewing the gentleman's examples in the video with that basic structure/dynamic overlay in mind makes what is being done far more understandable.

Cordially,

Erick Mead
一隻狗可久里馬房但他也不是馬的.
  Reply With Quote

Please visit our sponsor:

Iwama Ryu Hakama - Proudly handmade in Kyoto, Japan - Yamato Budogu



Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"Hidden in Plain Sight" Book Discussion Ellis Amdur Supplies 80 12-08-2011 03:07 PM
Analytic Anger and Frustration in Training Erick Mead Training 13 06-14-2007 04:17 PM
Transmission, Inheritance, Emulation 3 Peter Goldsbury Columns 16 05-28-2007 06:24 AM
Shu Ha Ri akiy General 21 07-12-2004 02:32 AM
AIKIDO IN TRAINING VIDEO SET FOR SALE BURNS-MAN Supplies 0 02-11-2001 10:04 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:42 AM.



vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2015 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited
----------
Copyright 1997-2015 AikiWeb and its Authors, All Rights Reserved.
----------
For questions and comments about this website:
Send E-mail
plainlaid-picaresque outchasing-protistan explicantia-altarage seaford-stellionate